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Jeroen_D
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X-Terminal Entria series

Hello,
we want to replace some C160s with B2000's. On the C160's there is Enware version 6.00 and 6.04. I don't have these old versions anymore so I installed v.7.11 but apparently the Entria's (Entria and Entria plus) no longer want to boot. I had adapted the base path in the settings menu (F12) on the Entria's but I get errors. The most important one is : Xserver : permission denied. (even after I typed xhost + on the B2000 console)

My question : is it possible to let the Entria's work with version 7.X ? Envizex-series work. The label on the Enware CD shows Envizex, Entria and 700RX series but it still does not work.

What could be my fault ? Does anyone have a link for more info on X-Terminals and enware software ? Too bad HP is no longer supporting it...
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Alex Glennie
Honored Contributor

Re: X-Terminal Entria series

Well If I'm not supporting it its the first I heard ! ;)

FYI Old 700 Rx's require the old 6.xx binaries still shipped as part of the 7.xx build.

Envizex and entria a,i,p series etc will need 7.xx (7.12 is latest).

Newer Entria and Envizex's - II's use 9.xx (9.12) s/w.

So why you have problems .... not sure my advise.

factory default the xterminal via the config screen

use xtadm to remove bootptab entry (ie deconfigure it)

then add it again, entry netwk details etc via config GUI, and then try to reboot the xterminal.

If this fails check the xterminal logs and use xtadm to check operation of NFS tftp etc .....
Alex Glennie
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Re: X-Terminal Entria series

Jeroen_D
Regular Advisor

Re: X-Terminal Entria series

Pfew..someone is still supporting these old thingies ;)

oke, so it should work with 7.11 so I can forget about trying to copy all needed files from a C160 running version 6.00. :)

I don't use the /etc/bootptab-file, all config is maintained on the Terminal itself. I will try to set it back to factory defaults and change things again.

About the NFS rights, if it works fine for envizex-series, should it work for Entria's too ? Or do these Entria's require more exported filesystems ?

You say : check the xterminal logs. Could you tell me where they are ? I already searched...
too bad I can't get to your site... I would really like some documentation so I know exactly which things should be exported. I am also sure the ENWARE-ENTRIA filesets have been installed.
Alex Glennie
Honored Contributor

Re: X-Terminal Entria series

to access the logs : remsh get log if there's network connectivity.

However I suspect this will fail so : try accessing the logs vai the config GUI : interrupt the boot by going into setup, then diagnostics then view logs.

Entria's and Envizexs should show similar performance / results.

as to further Documentation : my advise install 9.xx binaries if you have it ... it gives you html access to the Tech Ref Guide. Otherwise you'll have to make do with the hard copy version or on-line help versions you have installed with 7.xx.

See /opt/hpxt/enware/xthome/docs
Jeroen_D
Regular Advisor

Re: X-Terminal Entria series

I'm back after reading a lot...

I will soon retry something at our customer's site.

In the meantime it appears as the numeric keypad isn't enabled. Only the "5" works.
How can I enable the other numbers ? Something with xmodmap ? Or is it something easier ?

Jeroen.
Alex Glennie
Honored Contributor

Re: X-Terminal Entria series

check via the remsh command what the following parameters are set to :

LocalLEDCtrl = On ?
LocalNUMLock = Off ?
Alex Glennie
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Re: X-Terminal Entria series

as to the xmodmap .....

xmodmap this_file

more this_file :
keysym KP_Enter = Return
keysym KP_0 = 0
keysym KP_1 = 1
keysym KP_2 = 2
keysym KP_3 = 3
keysym KP_4 = 4
keysym KP_5 = 5
keysym KP_6 = 6
keysym KP_7 = 7
keysym KP_8 = 8
keysym KP_9 = 9
keysym KP_Decimal = period
keysym KP_Divide = slash
keysym KP_Multiply = asterisk
keysym KP_Subtract = minus
keysym KP_Add = plus

Does the above resolve ?
Jeroen_D
Regular Advisor

Re: X-Terminal Entria series

I used remsh hpenvx-2 get config | grep -i local and found :

LocalLEDCtrl : on
LocalNumLock : enabled.

Is this the way it should be ? I will go over to the customer's site. In a test situation at my firm the numeric keypad works with these settings.

I am already glad to know that for X-terminals to work I don't have to use xmodmap. The X-terminals also connect to a Metaframe server and there I have to use xmodmap.

Before I use that however I wanted to make certain the settings on the X-terminal were correct.
Alex Glennie
Honored Contributor

Re: X-Terminal Entria series

the settings look OK ..... try the xmodmap command if you still have problems, may also be worth running remsh get log as well for further clues.
Jeroen_D
Regular Advisor

Re: X-Terminal Entria series

Hello,

at my Envizex I observe this phenomenon : numlock is lit but only the "5" works.
After pressing the button twice I get a fully operational numeric keypad.

This occurs at the loginwindow and after logging in. So I don't think that xmodmap file is required for this "problem".

Is this a setting ? If the button has to be pressed before the numlock gets really operational, how can I put the numlock LED out, so I am certain that the users will know that the numeric keypad does not work until numlock is pressed.

Once again... TIA,
Jeroen.
Alex Glennie
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Solution

Re: X-Terminal Entria series

Try setting : LocalNUMLock = Off in the xterminalname.cfg file, save the file ... reboot the xterminal making sure it reads the config file Remore config : on/enabled ?

Or just check using remsh get config ? grep -i LocalNUMLock ?

Any change in behaviour ?
Jeroen_D
Regular Advisor

Re: X-Terminal Entria series

I had to put LocalNumLock = Disabled in order to make the numeric keypad work at logintime.

The other values were the default ones. Although the configfile says to put either On or Off, you have to use Enabled or Disabled => ?? (must be a programming error imho)

Now the client can no longer turn of the LED and the numeric part is operational.

Thanx !!
Jeroen.