Best way to mount a share served from OpenVMS Advanced Server

[Neil Ashworth_1]

Hi, like to subject suggests I am looking for the best way on Red Hat Linux to mount an OpenVMS share offered up by Advanced Server for OpenVMS. Can NFS be used? Samba? Is there a manual or guide out there that will step me through this?

Thanks, Neil

[Steven Schweda]

I know nothing, but I thought that Advanced
Server was a Samba-like package, quite
distinct from NFS (which is also available on
VMS).

Perhaps you should state your actual
requirements, and let the implementation fall
out from them, rather than asking how to
use some particular, possibly sub-optimal,
method to solve a vaguely specified problem.

You're trying to share some files?

> Is there a manual [...]

It's VMS. Manuals abound.

http://h71000.www7.hp.com/doc/index.html

Choosing the right one can be a problem.

Note that the current product is CIFS, not
Advanced Server.

http://h71000.www7.hp.com/doc/cifs.html

(The main doc page offers links to Advanced
Server (and PATHWORKS -- an even older
product) documentation.)

Potentially useful information from the VMS
system:

TCPIP SHOW VERSION

A VMS forum might offer more useful info than
you'll find here.

[Neil Ashworth_1]

Bottom line ... a Red Hat Linux user wishes to move files to and from OpenVMS running ADVANCED SERVER for OpenVMS.

I am sure this must has been done before.

[Steven Schweda]

> Bottom line ... a Red Hat Linux user wishes
> to move files to and from OpenVMS running
> ADVANCED SERVER for OpenVMS.

It's probably running an FTP server, too, but
that doesn't mean that FTP is the best method
for moving files to and from it.

> I am sure this must has been done before.

I'm sure, too, but I'm not so sure exactly
what "this" is.

The VMS system probably offers FTP, NFS,
SFTP, and possibly other things which are
capable of moving files hither and thither.
If it's running Advanced Server (or CIFS or
PATHWORKS), then it also offers a server
which can talk to a Samba client.

> TCPIP SHOW VERSION

Was that request too complex?

> Apr 13, 2010 18:42:06 GMT 1 pts

I didn't think much of the question, either.

[Neil Ashworth_1]

$ prod show prod
----------------------------------- ----------- ------------
PRODUCT KIT TYPE STATE
----------------------------------- ----------- ------------
CPQ AXPVMS ADVANCEDSERVER V7.3-A4 Full LP Installed
CPQ AXPVMS CDSA V1.0-2 Full LP Installed
DEC AXPVMS BNU V2.1 Full LP Installed
DEC AXPVMS DECNET_OSI V7.3-1 Full LP Installed
DEC AXPVMS DFU V2.7-A Full LP Installed
DEC AXPVMS DWMOTIF V1.2-6 Full LP Installed
DEC AXPVMS HYPERHELP V5.1-2 Full LP Installed
DEC AXPVMS NS_NAV_EXPORT V3.0-3 Full LP Installed
DEC AXPVMS ODL V2.1 Platform Installed
DEC AXPVMS OPENVMS V7.3-1 Platform Installed
DEC AXPVMS SWXCR V5.0 Full LP Installed
DEC AXPVMS TCPIP V5.3-18 Full LP Installed
DEC AXPVMS TNT V3.2-A Full LP Installed
DEC AXPVMS VMS V7.3-1 Oper System Installed
DEC VMS AMDS V7.3-2B Full LP Installed
HP AXPVMS LTT V4.4-0 Full LP Installed
----------------------------------- ----------- ------------

16 items found

[Steven E. Protter]

Shalom,

Based on the thread and some minimal reading:

1) Open VMS has an NFS server. You can configure it, start the service and then your red hat user can nfs mount it and transfer the files.

The basic answer to your question is yes.

Its really up to you to decide which transfer method works in this instance.

http://h71000.www7.hp.com/wizard/wiz_3395.html

http://forums11.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/questionanswer.do?threadId=974140

Several good links brought to you by HP and google.

SEP

[Steven Schweda]

> $ prod show prod

Not really what I requested, but better than
nothing.

> [...] TCPIP V5.3-18 [...]

Pretty old stuff, but there's an NFS server
in there somewhere. I'd try that before I
resorted to Advanced Server. Manuals:

http://h71000.www7.hp.com/doc/tcpip53.html
http://h71000.www7.hp.com/doc/73final/6526/6526pro.html
http://h71000.www7.hp.com/doc/73final/6526/6526pro_036.html

An ODS2 file system on a VMS system tends to
impose various limitations on file names. I
don't know if an eight-year-old TCPIP NFS
server knows about ODS5. I don't know which
TCPIP ECO (if any) has been installed. I
don't know who'd be trying to name the files,
or where they'd originate, or all kinds of
other details which are not revealed by a
problem description which begins and ends
with a phrase like "Bottom line". If you do
have problems, I'd suggest starting your
next inquiry with the information previously
requested.

[Neil Ashworth_1]

I am making some headway. I did a test using cifs from an HP-UX system to a VMS system:

ciedev01> cifsmount //ajax/NASHWORTH /root/neil -U nashworth -D viha
ciedev01> bdf | grep neil
ajax:/nashworth 25165816 15027840 10137976 60% /root/neil
ciedev01> cd /root/neil
ciedev01> ll
total 0
ciedev01> touch neil.tmp
ciedev01> ll
total 0
ciedev01> ll neil.tmp
-rwxrwxrwx 1 root sys 0 Apr 13 14:48 neil.tmp


So I can connect to a Pathworks share, but canâ t seem to do a wildcard listing of files within the directory (ie â llâ shows nothing). What did I miss?

[Tim Nelson]

It has been way too many years since I touched VMS but first thought is an obvious "allow wild card" setting ...

I bet if you post this thread in the VMS forum instead of linux you would get the answer right quick from those that hang out there.
http://forums11.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/familyhome.do?familyId=288

[Neil Ashworth_1]

Thanks all. I have logged a call with HP support, and it appears this might be a bug within Advanced Server as they have been able to reproduce the problem.