14500

[Willem Grooters]

How?
Raising prices = loss of even more jobs since competition can do the same for less.
VMS on non_HP = loss of even more jobs since "no-one" will use it due to high price, lack of applications and non-marketing.
VMS on IA32 = loss of even more jobs, for the very same reason.

When will managers (and directors) give the good example and be happy with half of it?
When will shareholders look further tahn their own wallets?

[Ian Miller.]

raise revenue by selling more services, hardware and software.
You can't grow a company by cutting people!

[Antoniov.]

14,500 people can create a little town.
14,500 people and their families are about 30,000..40,000 people with money trouble.
They are a town.
With IBM employes are a lot of people with bad thinks.

I'm amazed, surprised, stupefied by IT managers that are convinced give the same quality to customer. They can saving money but don't keep good customer service.

Antonio Vigliotti

[Wim Van den Wyngaert]

On the pother hand, there always fat in the organization that can be cut without any problem. Some say it can even be 50% ...

Just hope they cut the fat and not the (old) meat.

Wim

[Uwe Zessin]

I am afraid the "fat" knows quite well how to protect itself and is in the appropriate positions to do so. Those people are not dumb...

[Wim Van den Wyngaert]

Uwe,

They will probably cut the dump fat (good) and the old meat (bad). Just hope no one of the forum gets hit.

Wim

[Willem Grooters]

Selling services doesn't mean a thing if you don't deliver it, does it?

[Antoniov.]

A cold wind is blowing on us :-?
HP World show on San Francisco is cancelled http://www.thechannelinsider.com/article2/0,1895,1838457,00.asp
US interex, with 100,000 uses, closes
http://www.interex.org
Somebody inside HP user group asks what has to do http://forums1.itrc.hp.com/service/forums/questionanswer.do?threadId=939264

What is the future of vms?

Antonio Vigliotti

[Uwe Zessin]

My guess is that VMS will live on in some special high-end niches and at some customers who have locked-in applications or who are too inert to 'migrate off'.

[Wim Van den Wyngaert]

The advantage for the VMSers is that few youngsters are going to learn it (certainly not at school). That only leaves the existing people who are decreasing in number because of (early) retirements, move to other platforms, move to management positions, etc.

And the VMS applications will be there for a long time.

So, the best IT job in town ?

Wim