AEST. Is there a secret to translating DECW apps?

[Brian Schenkenberger]

I've used AEST to migrate some tools successfully but one is a DECW/X app and it crashes whenever it is run.

I've defined all of the DECW shareables but the app just dumps.

[Robert Gezelter]

Brian,

What versions (OpenVMS, AEST, etc.)?

- Bob Gezelter, http://www.rlgsc.com

[Brian Schenkenberger]

OpenVMS Itanium V8.2 and V8.3

AEST V1.0 DEV_0.8 (Feb 21 2005)


For a test, I copied DECW$PUZZLE.EXE from an Alpha V8.2 system and AESTed it... it pukes with an ACCVIO.

[Wim Van den Wyngaert]

There seems to be a 1.1 of AEST
http://h71000.www7.hp.com/openvms/ovmsproducts.html

Wim

[Volker Halle]

Brian,

I've found the following in the OMSAIS (AEST) V1.0 Release Notes in chapter 1.5 Known Problems and Limitations

. DECwindows applications are not supported by HP OpenVMS Migration Software for Alpha to Integrity Servers (OSMAI).

http://h71000.www7.hp.com/openvms/products/omsva/relnotespro.html

Volker.

[Brian Schenkenberger]

Thanks. I don't know where you got your release notes but the AEST$RELEASE_NOTES.TXT in my SYS$HELP mentions nothing about DECWs.

[Volker Halle]

Brian,

I've provided the URL of the OMSAIS (AEST) V1.0 Release Notes at the HP OMSAIS download site.

Volker.

[Robert Gezelter]

Brian,

I would recommend downloading and upgrading to 1.1.

My follow-on suggestion is to track down precisely where the problem is. As usual, the term "unsupported" has a range of meanings. Often, it is not a fatal limitation, but a lack of testing or that some library has not been translated. If it is something on that scale, then it is not a unreasobably sized effort to write the necessary jacket routine.

- Bob Gezelter, http://www.rlgsc.com

[Karl Rohwedder]

It seems that the transition-modules package has a new version V1.1, but the AEST software itself is still at V1.0.

regards Kalle

[Volker Halle]

The downloadable PCSI file is still called:

HP-I64VMS-MSAI-V0100--1.PCSI$COMPRESSED

which would be V1.0

The Translated Image Environment (TIE) software component is integrated into OpenVMS I64 V8.2-1 (or higher), but V8.3 should be used due to a couple of fixes - as far as I remember.

Volker.

[Ian Miller.]

IIRC in a recent discussion elsewhere Guy P recommended using VMS V8.3 when using translated apps as there are some key fixes.

[Brian Schenkenberger]

I've downloaded all the latest and greatest. I've also gotten the same results on V8.2 and V8.3.

If anyone cares to try, try AESTing DECW$PUZZLE. It's a fairly simple DECW app. All that I get is an access violaton when launching it.

[Volker Halle]

Brian,

just for curiosity, did you try to force a process dump ($ SET PROC/DUMP) and have a look at where this is failing ?

Volker.