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Vladimir Fabecic
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DE500-BA and OpenVMS 6.2

Hello
I had to replace (good old) FDDI card with fast ethernet card DE500-BA. I have done it few times before and had no problem. But it was very long time ago.
The machine is AS2100 (4/255). OS version is 6.2.
After installing ALPLAN05_062 (ALPCLUSIO01_062 and ALPY2K02_062 were allready installed) VMS could not see that card. The card is recognized by SRM console.
Can someone remind me what to do?
Thanks
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Kris Clippeleyr
Honored Contributor

Re: DE500-BA and OpenVMS 6.2

Hi Vladimir,

What does
SHOW DEVICE E
tell you?

Is the card seen in LANCP?
MC LANCP
LANCP> SHOW DEVICE

Is the card properly seated?

Please provide more info.

Regards,
Kris (aka Qkcl)
I'm gonna hit the highway like a battering ram on a silver-black phantom bike...
Vladimir Fabecic
Honored Contributor

Re: DE500-BA and OpenVMS 6.2

Hello
SHOW DEVICE E can see just EWA0 devices (EWA-0 is 10 Mbit ethernet card on IO board) that were seen before DE500-BA instalation.
LANCP> SHOW DEVICE also sees just EWA-0.
Is the card properly seated?
It should be. SRM console recognizes both EWA0 and EWB0. I also have link up on that card (when in SRM).
What more info do you need?
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Volker Halle
Honored Contributor

Re: DE500-BA and OpenVMS 6.2

Vladimir,

can you try SYSMAN> IO AUTO/LOG ? Does it find and configure the DE500-BA ?

Does SDA> CLUE CONFIG/ADAP show the device ?

Volker.

Andreas Lederer
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Re: DE500-BA and OpenVMS 6.2

Hi Vladimir,

Maybe Hardware related:

1.) Is the SRM firmware level 5.3-2 ? (last code)
See release notes:http://ftp.digital.com/pub/DEC/Alpha/firmware/archive/doc/alpha2100_v53_fw_relnote.pdf
C.4.1.1 Set EW*0_Mode Auto-Negotiate Examples
and
C.4.1.2 Behavior Note on Systems with Multiple DE500â s on OpenVMS Systems

2.) FDDI was an EISA Card ? - If so, you have to run the ECU (EISA Configuration Utility)

3.) Maybe this DE500 is bad ?

4.) I'm intrested of the output:
>>> show * (return)

5.) >>> clear_error all
could clear "scrap" in Memory

regards, Andy
Vladimir Fabecic
Honored Contributor

Re: DE500-BA and OpenVMS 6.2

Hello all and thanks for reply
SYSMAN> IO AUTO/LOG did not find DE500-BA
Here is attached file for SDA> CLUE CONFIG
SRM version is 5.1 and machine is AS2100 4/275 (not 4/255, sorry).
FDDI card was PCI, not EISA.
I do not think that DE500-BA is bad because it was recognized by SRM console (but who knows).
I can give output of >>> show * right now because it is an application server (on customer place) for old applications but will try to do it tommorow or day after.
And will try >>> clear_error, but not sure it can help.
I am sure I forgot to do something in OS.
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Wim Van den Wyngaert
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Re: DE500-BA and OpenVMS 6.2

Vladimir Fabecic
Honored Contributor

Re: DE500-BA and OpenVMS 6.2

Wim
Patch ALPBOOT13_062 is patch for boot support for DE500-BA. This machine does not have to boot from network.
But if it can help, it would not be a problem to install that patch.
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Ian Miller.
Honored Contributor

Re: DE500-BA and OpenVMS 6.2

You may need the ALPBOOT13_062 patch already mentioned. The driver for that card is SYS$LOADABLE_IMAGES:SYS$EWDRIVER_DE500BA.EXE

Note ALPLAN06_062 is the latest kit.

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Wim Van den Wyngaert
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Re: DE500-BA and OpenVMS 6.2

My mistake. Interpreted "boot" a little bit to fast. Sorry. Ian is right.

Wim
Wim
Volker Halle
Honored Contributor

Re: DE500-BA and OpenVMS 6.2

Vladimir,

thanks for the SDA> CLUE CONFIG output. It has the key information for this problem:

7 DIGITAL_PCI_VEND 00191011

The device is seen on the PCI bus with it's hardware ID, but OpenVMS does NOT KNOW how to configure this device !

The seems to be no entry for this device in SYS$SYSTEM:SYS$CONFIG.DAT

device = "DE500-AA/BA (Fast Ethernet)"
name = EW
driver = SYS$EWDRIVER_DE500BA
adapter = PCI
id = 0x00191011
boot_flags = HW_CTRL_LTR, UNIT_0
flags = BOOT, NETWORK
end_device

Please check your SYS$SYSTEM:SYS$CONFIG.DAT file for this entry.

Volker.
Volker Halle
Honored Contributor

Re: DE500-BA and OpenVMS 6.2

Vladimir,

the OpenVMS FAQ explicitly talks about V6.2-1H3 (+patches) regarding the support for the DE500-BA - see chapter 14.23 Which DE500 variant works with which OpenVMS version?

Maybe the entry in SYS$CONFIG.DAT did NOT show up BEFORE V6.2-1H3 - this would explain your problem. Even using the most recent ALPLAN06_062 patch won't help if the above would be true.

Volker.
Wim Van den Wyngaert
Honored Contributor

Re: DE500-BA and OpenVMS 6.2

This is 6.2, no file called SYS$SYSTEM:SYS$CONFIG.DAT.

WIm
Wim
Vladimir Fabecic
Honored Contributor

Re: DE500-BA and OpenVMS 6.2

ALPLAN05_062.txt (cover letter for that patch) says:

4 KIT DESCRIPTION:

4.1 Version(s) of OpenVMS to which this kit may be applied:

OpenVMS Alpha V6.2, V6.2-1H1, V6.2-1H2, V6.2-1H3


4.2 Files patched or replaced:


o [SYSEXE]LANCP.EXE (new image)

o [SYSEXE]LANACP.EXE (new image)

o [SYS$LDR]NET$CSMACD.EXE (new image)

o [SYS$LDR]NET$FDDI.EXE (new image)

o [SYS$LDR]SYS$ECDRIVER.EXE (new image)

o [SYS$LDR]SYS$EODRIVER.EXE (new image)

o [SYS$LDR]SYS$ERDRIVER.EXE (new image)

o [SYS$LDR]SYS$EWDRIVER.EXE (new image)

-- COVER LETTER -- Page 2
1 April 1998


o [SYS$LDR]SYS$ESDRIVER.EXE (new image)

o [SYS$LDR]SYS$EWDRIVER_DE500BA.EXE (new image)

o [SYS$LDR]SYS$EXDRIVER.EXE (new image)

o [SYS$LDR]SYS$EZDRIVER.EXE (new image)

o [SYS$LDR]SYS$FADRIVER.EXE (new image)

o [SYS$LDR]SYS$FCDRIVER.EXE (new image)

o [SYS$LDR]SYS$FRDRIVER.EXE (new image)

o [SYS$LDR]SYS$FWDRIVER.EXE (new image)

o [SYS$LDR]SYS$FXDRIVER.EXE (new image)

o [SYS$LDR]SYS$HCDRIVER.EXE (new image)

o [SYS$LDR]SYS$ICDRIVER.EXE (new image)

o [SYS$LDR]SYS$IRDRIVER.EXE (new image)

o [SYS$LDR]SYS$IWDRIVER.EXE (new image)

So that means that it should work on OpenVMS v6.2!
Am I wrong?
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Jan van den Ende
Honored Contributor

Re: DE500-BA and OpenVMS 6.2

Re/read Volker.

The PATCH may be applied to the noted versions, but V6.2-1H3 is the version that INTRODUCED support for this card.
So NO (sub)-version version before 6.2-1H3 will be able to recognise the card.

You will need to upgrade to (at least' that version to ever be able to use that card.

hth

Proost.

Have one on me.

jpe
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Volker Halle
Honored Contributor

Re: DE500-BA and OpenVMS 6.2

Wim,

yes, you're right. File based device configuration support is (was !) new in V7.1

Prior to that version, it was built into 'the OpenVMS kernel' into some system image (see V7.1 New Features Manual).

Valdimir,

according to the patch release notes, it should work. Based on my previous entries, you may be missing some piece to support autoconfiguration to work.

The DE500-BA is seen on the PCI bus, but it's not being configured !

Volker.
Wim Van den Wyngaert
Honored Contributor

Re: DE500-BA and OpenVMS 6.2

Vladi,

The latest patchkit is 06 file (ALPLAN06), not 05.

Wim
Wim
Vladimir Fabecic
Honored Contributor

Re: DE500-BA and OpenVMS 6.2

Volker
I also think that I am missing some piece to support autoconfiguration to work. But I do not know that piece. I can install ALPBOOT13_062, but not sure this is the missing piece.
I did not find that additional ALPCPU patch was required for AS2100 4/275. I think the problems were with EV5 machines.
Upgrade to V6.2-1H3 is possible, but I have to be sure it would work.
In vino veritas, in VMS cluster
Volker Halle
Honored Contributor
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Re: DE500-BA and OpenVMS 6.2

Vladimir,

there is an ALPCPU0907_062 patch (for Alpha Server 2x00 Systems), which is a COREQUISITE patch for the ALPLAN patch to add support for the DE500-BA (in the CPU-specific routines - probably needed for autoconfiguration to work).

Did you install that patch ? Please read the release notes of that patch and consider to also install AXPGUP01_062

Volker.
Wim Van den Wyngaert
Honored Contributor

Re: DE500-BA and OpenVMS 6.2

Checked some advice of Uwe found with Google :
http://h18002.www1.hp.com/alphaserver/options/as2x00/as2x00_19_options_sorted.html#OptListHead

the ba card is not an option for the 2100.

Wim
Wim
Vladimir Fabecic
Honored Contributor

Re: DE500-BA and OpenVMS 6.2

I did not not install ALPCPU0907_062. That may be the missing piece!
I will try to install it this week.
Where can I find AXPGUP01_062? I did not find it in ftp://ftp.itrc.hp.com/openvms_patches/alpha/V6.2X/
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Volker Halle
Honored Contributor

Re: DE500-BA and OpenVMS 6.2

Vladimir,

old patches are best found on the CSC Sydney patch site:

http://ftp.hp.com.au/pub/ecoinfo/ecoinfo/111.htm

The AXPGUP01_062 patch only seems to apply to V6.2 and V6.2-1H1. There is a warning (in the ALPCPU0907_062 patch) for potential MACHINECHK crashes, if you also have a QVISION card - but you don't, so it should be safe to install that patch as well.

Volker.
Wim Van den Wyngaert
Honored Contributor

Re: DE500-BA and OpenVMS 6.2

FWIW

I have a 2100 which has a network card BA that is working under 6.2 1H3. Clue config indicates DIGIOTAL_PCI_VEND but it is working. ALPLAN04_062 is the highest patch.

Wim
Wim
Volker Halle
Honored Contributor

Re: DE500-BA and OpenVMS 6.2

Wim,

is ALPCPU0907_062 installed ? And CLUE CONFIG will list the device as EWcn: ...

Volker.
Wim Van den Wyngaert
Honored Contributor

Re: DE500-BA and OpenVMS 6.2

Volker,

Patch installed and listed as EWB (in lcue config) vut no de500-ba.

Wim
Wim