NTP on VMS

[Tim Nelson]

I am looking to configure NTP on VMS 7.3-2. After reading through the TCP/IP Doc ( 5.4) I am finding some descrepancies.
1) There is no NTP client or server item in the tcpip$config
2) There is no tcpip$ntp.template
3) There is no sys$specific:[tcpip$ntp] directory

Am I missing something here ?

tcpip$ntp_startup.com and tcpip$ntp_shutdown.com exist but obviously do not work with out the ntp.conf file.
Typically the setups are done via tcpip$config but without a menu option I am lost.

Any suggestions ?

[Volker Halle · Accepted solution]

Tim,

I can find NTP config under Server Components

12 - NTP Enabled Started

(in TCPIP T5.5)

The TCPIP$NTP files and directories are most probably created, once you configure the service mit @TCPIP$CONFIG.

Volker.

[Tim Nelson]

That explains part of it.
I am running
HP TCP/IP Services for OpenVMS Alpha Version V5.4 - ECO 2
I will recheck the doc. Was sure I was reading the V5.4 documents. ( perhaps another error in documentation )

Thanks !

[Tim Nelson]

Where did V5.5 come from.
Doc site only has 5.4 and below listed
http://h71000.www7.hp.com/doc/
??

[Kris Clippeleyr]

Tim,

Are you sure there is no NTP config option in your TCPIP$CONFIG.
Mine has, as Volker said, under 'Server Components', item 12.
Btw, I'm running VMS Alpha V7.3-1, TCPIP 5.3 ECO 2.

Greetz,

Kris

[Volker Halle]

Tim,

what kind of TCPIP license does your system have ? Maybe a TCPIP CLIENT license ?

NTP should exist in V5.4 as well.

Volker.

[Kris Clippeleyr]

Tim,

Doc. is here:

http://h71000.www7.hp.com/doc/732FINAL/6524/6524pro_003.html#index_x_122

and here:

http://h71000.www7.hp.com/doc/732final/6526/6526pro_028.html#ntp_config

Greetz,

Kris

[Tim Nelson]

Alright so I need a new pair of glasses.
Initally I was looking under client services. When looking at server services I did not notice the second column ( i.e. items 12-xx ).
Sorry for being stupid. Ran the startup/enable and allof the files and directories now exist.
Thanks for the help.

Tim

[Uwe Zessin]

Perhaps you got a little bit confused because some other services (telnet, ftp) allow you to configure the server part after you have enabled the client through its own menue...

[Tim Nelson]

Yeah, that is it :) Thanks for the use of a good excuse Uwe !!

Much appreciation to all !!

[Ian Miller.]

TCPIP Services for VMS V5.5 is on general release yet - it is coming out with VMS V8.2.
I guess Volker has a FT copy.

[Mike Ford_2]

If anyone is running lower levels of VMS, TCPIP or running Multinet TCPIP, or has firewalls and can't get out to the NTP time clock and there is a DNS/NTP server in your company's network you can use SYS$COMMON:[SYSHLP.EXAMPLES.DTSS]DTSS$NTP_PROVIDER.exe or DTSS$NTP_PROVIDER.C if you need to tweak it. This works with DTSS in DECNetV. I use this to set up a Time Server in each of my networks and sync the other systems as clerks to the Time Server in their network.
In the following procedure substitute your Company's NTP time server for DTSS$_TP_HOSTNAME

$ ty SYS$COMMON:[SYSHLP.EXAMPLES.DTSS]RUN_NTP_TP.COM
$! example of running NTP time provider
$set proc/priv=all
$define/sys/exec DTSS$_TP_VERBOSE 0
$define/sys/exec DTSS$_TP_INACCURACY 30
$define/sys/exec DTSS$_TP_TIME_STAMPS 6
$define/sys/exec DTSS$_TP_HOSTNAME dhtpape
$run sys$common:[sysexe]dtss_ntp_provider
$exit

If you want to run detached or start from the system startup

$ ! example of starting the NTP time provider as a detached process
$ !
$ ! Start it up
$ !
$ run/detached sys$system:loginout.exe -
/input=SYS$SYSDEVICE:[SYS0.SYSCOMMON.SYSHLP.EXAMPLES.DTSS]run_ntp_tp.com
-
/error=sys$manager:dtss$ntp_tp.log -
/output=sys$manager:dtss$ntp_tp.log -
/process=DTSS$NTP_TP -
/buffer_limit=30000 -
/enqueue_limit=800 -
/extent=4096 -
/io_buffered=100 -
/io_direct=100 -
/maximum_working_set=5120 -
/page_file=30000 -
/working_set=2048 -
/file_limit=60 -
/authorize
$ exit

[Tim Nelson]

Thanks to all that responded