System permanent logical names

[Swain]

I have server running Open VMS 8.2
I want to define logical names which would work for all users and will remain over reboots. Pls let me know how to achieve the same.I tried the following command:
DEFINE/TABLE=LNM$SYSTEM_TABLE/EXECUTIVE_MODE /system DISK$APP AP$DKB100:
It worked for my next login,but didn't work for other users.They get an err showing:
%DCL-E-OPENIN, error opening DISK$APP:[RS1R4]RS1LOG.COM; as input
-RMS-F-DEV, error in device name or inappropriate device type for operation.

[Wim Van den Wyngaert]

Read help def/sys.
The /tab= is not needed.

You have to add the command to SYLOGICALS.COM if you want it to survive boot.

Do other users see the disk ap$dkb100 (with show dev) ?

Wim

[Hakan Zanderau ( Anders]

Hi,

A logical name is in use the moment you define it ( no need for a logout/login ).

You have defined the name in LNM$SYSTEM_TABLE, but if the logical is already defined in a table closer to your process ( LNM$PROCESS, LNM$JOB, LNM$GROUP ), then it will overridden by the definition in theese tables.

Do a SHOW LOGICAL/FULL DISK$APP and check for a definition in a "lower" table.

Don't forget to add the logical to your startup-scripts ( SYS$STARTUP:SYLOGICALS.COM )

regards,

Hakan Zanderau

[Joseph Huber_1]

Please note:
logicals like DISK$label are created by the MOUNT command from the volume-label of the disk .
They will replace Your own DISK$APP logical if a disk with the label APP is mounted.

In general, don't use logicals starting with DISK$ for something else.

And in Your case, if the label of the disk in question is APP, then there is no need for an extra logical, and there would be only a single point in startup where the logical is defined:
if the disk moves to another unit or server, only the mount command needs to be changed.

[Swain]

yes, the other users are able to see the device using $ sh dev

[Wim Van den Wyngaert]

Then check the other tables when logged in as the user having problems.

show log disk$app* /fu

and post it.

Wim

[Jan van den Ende]

Amaresh,

In the construct
>>>
DISK$APP AP$DKB100:
<<<
the DISK$APP part is treated as a device name. To be able to use it as such, you need to add /TRANSLATION=CONCEALED to the DEFINE statement.

And DO look at the answers by Wim, Hakan, and Joseph: they are all part of the full answer.

hth

Proost.

Have one on me.

jpe

[Swain]

I tried to add the logical to sylogical.com
but it's showing error
%EDT-F-OPENOUT, error opening DISK$USER:[PRT]SYLOGICALS.JOU; as output
-RMS-F-DEV, error in device name or inappropriate device type for operation
can you help,please?

[Swain]

Wim,
I tried $ sh log disk$* /fu and didn't get the logical for disk$app

I have the above mentioned problem in adding the logical to sylogical.com

[Hakan Zanderau ( Anders]

Hm.......

Have you tried both ASSIGN and DEFINE when you defined the logical ???
( the format is not the same for each command )
Do a

$ SHOW LOGICALS DISK$APP* /FULL

and

$ SHOW LOGICAL AP$DKB100* /FULL

And please post the results

/Hakan