VMS Motif to Solaris question

[FriedEggs]

Hi,

I manage alpha clusters from my vms (alpha) workstations on my cluttered desk. However I would like to manage some solaris boxes from a CDE/motif session on my aworkstations as well. (not just a xterm/telnet session)
Can I run-up/export the CDE gui from a telnet sesson on the unix box to my vms workstation?

[Steven Schweda]

Your question involves VMS and Solaris, so
you picked an HP-UX forum for it? Hmmm.

I may be doing all the time what you want to
do, but it's hard to tell from that
description. Assuming that you have the
CDE-like "New Desktop" on your VMS
system/display, there should be no problem
running any normal X/Motif application on a
Solaris system and having its graphics appear
on your Alpha's display (and having the
Alpha's keyboard and mouse talk to it, too).

> Can I run-up/export the CDE gui from a
> telnet sesson on the unix box to my vms
> workstation?

I don't think so. You should already have a
full CDE(-like) GUI already on your Alpha,
and I don't think that you can run two window
managers for it.

Can you set DISPLAY in a Solaris session,
enable access from that host in the Alpha's
Style Manager > Security control, and then
run, say, dtmail or sdtperfmeter or "vim -g"
on the Solaris system and work with it on the
Alpha? Sure. I do it all the time with my
XP1000. From HP-UX and Tru64, too.)

If you could explain exactly what you want to
do while you're sitting at your Alpha, it
might be possible to give a better answer.

[FriedEggs]

Hi, thanx for taking the time to reply to my question

I'm not sure what you mean about the "New desktop" on my workstation...
I'm running vms 8.3 and HP decwindows Motif for Openvms Version 1.6
The solaris is running sunos 5.3.

At the moment I telnet to the unix box, set a display.. and run a single window to my WS like XTERM :-(

What I would like to startup is mutiple windows with say...
File / Device manager windows, a seperate window for xterm , and browser. and if possible... a gui for performance monitoring (maybe too much).

How do you run things like dtmail or sdtperfmeter or "vim -g" from the workstation?

[Steven Schweda]

> I'm not sure what you mean about the "New
> desktop" on my workstation...

When you log in, what does it say? Mine
says, "Starting the New Desktop for OpenVMS".
I've never done it on an Alpha, but I assume
that one can still use the pre-CDE-like Old
Desktop (like the one on a VAX). If your
desktop has the CDE-like Front Panel (with
the EXIT sign), that's the New Desktop.

> I'm running vms 8.3 and HP decwindows Motif
> for Openvms Version 1.6

I have one of those, but my main system is
still at VMS V7.3-2 with Motif V1.3-1, but no
matter.

> The solaris is running sunos 5.3.

Ooh. Stale. Mine are 5.10, but no matter.

> How do you run things like dtmail or
> sdtperfmeter or "vim -g" from the
> workstation?

Pretty much the same as I would if I were
sitting at another Solaris desktop. I
normally "rsh" to the Solaris system from any
old DECterm on the Alpha, and run the
command(s) on the Solaris system:

alp $ rsh soli
Last login: Wed Nov 14 22:15:04 from alp-l.antinode.
Sun Microsystems Inc. SunOS 5.10 Generic January 2005
soli> dtmail &
[1] 10094
soli>

Now, my shell's .profile does a "who am i",
extracts the remote host name, and sets
DISPLAY automatically, but that can be done
manually, too. "rsh " won't do the
.profile, but you can do things the hard way,
too:

alp $ rsh soli "export DISPLAY=alp-l:0.0 ; /usr/bin/firefox &"
alp $

... and up pops the browser window. The
syntax for setting an environment variable
will depend on your shell. (I use bash.)

alp $ rsh /user = root soli "export DISPLAY=alp-l:0.0 ; /usr/sbin/smc &"
Warning: Cannot convert string "-monotype-arial-regular-r-normal--*-140-*-*-p-*-
iso8859-1" to type FontStruct
Java Accessibility Bridge for GNOME loaded.

... and, after the whining, up pops the
Solaris Management Console (about which I
know nothing).

alp $ rsh soli "export DISPLAY=alp-l:0.0 ; /usr/dt/bin/sdtperfmeter &"

... and so on ...

I tend to avoid dtfile, but it's there if
you want it.

If you're doing something which doesn't work
as expected/desired, say what that is, and
exhibit the failure symptoms.