how to connect tru64 v 40. D to pc windows xp

[MNMC]

> How old is this system?

I think it have been installed in 1998, and until now it still works properly and fast.

[Rob Leadbeater]

AlphaStation 255s are remarkably robust given their age. As I mentioned earlier in the thread, I'm managing a large estate of similar machines that were all installed in the mid to late 90s and are still going relatively strong. Unsurprisingly disk failures are the main issues.

Most will be retired by the end of the year though.

Cheers,
Rob

[MNMC]

> Most will be retired by the end of the year though.

So I think it is strongly recommended to move that degital unix to PC emulater.

Fortunately I find that ethirenet-AUI PCI card can be intalled to PC motherboard to connect tha camera with the emulater.

[Rob Leadbeater]

Hi,

You shouldn't need to put an AUI network card into the PC.

Just get an AUI to 10-BaseT transceiver for the camera, and connect everything together with modern cabling.

http://www.blackbox.com/Store/Detail.aspx/10BASE-T-to-AUI-Transceiver/LE180A

Cheers,
Rob

[MNMC]

> You shouldn't need to put an AUI network card into the PC.

why, what is the wrong??

> Just get an AUI to 10-BaseT transceiver for the camera, and connect everything together with modern cabling.

but the camera is like this

alpha-------AUI cable-------AUI to thinnet adaptor------thennet cabels-------AUI to thinnet adaptor------AUI cable--------camera.

so there well be three transceivers between the camera and PC emulator, cat this well work good??

[Rob Leadbeater]

Camera ---- AUI to 10-BaseT adapter ---- Cat-5 Cable ---- 10-BaseT Hub ---- Cat-5 cable ---- PC

[Steven Schweda]

Or:

H
u --- UTP-cable --- UTP-adapter-AUI --- Camera
b
/
S --- UTP-cable --- Windows-PC
w
i
t --- UTP-cable --- AlphStation
c
h

All the Ethernet interfaces on my AlpSta 200
4/233 have a UTP hole. The built-in has a
UTP and a BNC. The DE500-BA has only UTP.
Even my oldest (ISA) card, a DE205, has UTP,
BNC, and AUI. If the camera requires AUI,
then you need an adapter. Do you have
anything else which does not have UTP? Why
not use UTP wherever you can (which should be
almost everywhere)?

I know nothing about this camera system, but
I would not be amazed if it had a non-AUI
connector hidden in there somewhere, too.

[MNMC]

> All the Ethernet interfaces on my AlpSta 200
4/233 have a UTP hole. The built-in has a
UTP and a BNC. The DE500-BA has only UTP.
Even my oldest (ISA) card, a DE205, has UTP,
BNC, and AUI. If the camera requires AUI,
then you need an adapter. Do you have
anything else which does not have UTP? Why
not use UTP wherever you can (which should be
almost everywhere)?

is there any defrenec between UTP cabesls/adaptors and 10-BaseT adapter/Cat-5 Cable?

why nobody tell me why I shouldn`t take the AUI card PCI from alpha to PC??

> I know nothing about this camera system, but
I would not be amazed if it had a non-AUI
connector hidden in there somewhere, too.

It is a good idea, I well see and tell you, perhaps it needs "set to twisted-pair" auch as in the alpha.

[Steven Schweda]

> is there any defrenec [...]

No. Twisted-Pair = Unshielded Twisted-Pair =
UTP = 10[0]BaseT = CatX (X = 3, 4, 5, ...).

> why nobody tell me why I shouldn`t take
> the AUI card PCI from alpha to PC??

You have a PC with no Ethernet interface?
Why break up the (working) Alpha system to
get a $5 part out of it?

Perhaps I missed something. Did you ever say
which kind of Ethernet card is in the Alpha?

[MNMC]

> Perhaps I missed something. Did you ever say
which kind of Ethernet card is in the Alpha?

No you don`t miss it, I said it`s both Ethernet-Twisted-Pair and AUI neighbors in the same card, I don`t know it`s kind or it`s company.

as for the camera, I haven`t found any ethernet port, but 2 ports in use with internal cables, are similar to ethernet port, but have 4 pins only inside them, however, your desiners above about camera connect with PC is persuasive.

Thanks very very much.

[MNMC]

Hallo

Today the cables and the switsh reached at last, I have made all thing is ok

alpha, hostname odyssey, IP 193.0.0.1, (otherhost) 193.0.0.2, net mask 255.255.255.0

PC, hostname jupiter1, IP 193.0.0.2, defualt gateway 193.0.0.1, net mask 255.255.255.0

but the local area connection said "unplugged" in windows,

in tru64 the "ping jupiter1" :

PING jupiter1 (193.0.0.2): 56 data bytes

-------jupiter1 PING Statistics---------
8 packets transmitted, 0packets received, 100% packet loss

in windows cmd "ping odyssey"

Pinging odyssey [193.0.0.1] with 32 bytes of data:

Destanation host unreachable.
Destanation host unreachable.
Destanation host unreachable.
Destanation host unreachable.

Ping statistics for 193.0.0.1:

Packests: Sent = 4, Received = 0, Lost = 4 <100% loss>

I chicked the cables and the switch several times, all thing is ok.

but does the proplem that windows sends 32 bit, but tru64 sedns 64 bit??

probaply the ethernent port(s) is fulty??

I well still test the cabes and swich with other 2 PCs, and tell you.

[Steven Schweda]

> Today the cables and the switsh reached at
> last, I have made all thing is ok

Ok. What did you connect to what? What,
exactly, is "the switsh"? (Maker? Model?)

> alpha, hostname odyssey, IP 193.0.0.1,
> (otherhost) 193.0.0.2, net mask
> 255.255.255.0

Huh? What happened to showing actual
commands with their actual output?

ifconfig -a

I thought that the Alpha had two interfaces.
Which one did you configure now?

> I chicked the cables and the switch several
> times, all thing is ok.

It's nice that you're happy. I, however,
can't see what you connected to what, or what
the indicator LEDs are doing, or anything
else.

> but does the proplem that windows sends 32
> bit, but tru64 sedns 64 bit??

No. I'll say it one more time. TCP/IP is
TCP/IP.

> in tru64 the "ping jupiter1" :

> in windows cmd "ping odyssey"

On the Alpha system: ping odyssey
On the Windows: ping jupiter1

[MNMC]

> Ok. What did you connect to what? What,
exactly, is "the switsh"? (Maker? Model

Thanks very much for this help, the switsh isn`t marked, it has 8 ports, now someone of windows networknig tell me that the windows lockal network must be plugged if the switsh works good, but it seems not work.


> Huh? What happened to showing actual
commands with their actual output?

ifconfig -a

it is the same with the last, I haven`t changed any thing, I have found that all things was prepared since the tru64 installed.

> I thought that the Alpha had two interfaces.
Which one did you configure now?

the built in one.


> It's nice that you're happy. I, however,
can't see what you connected to what, or what
the indicator LEDs are doing, or anything
else.

the lights of switsh seems to me random and have not relationship with the ports that I put the cables, I change the ports several times but useless.

> No. I'll say it one more time. TCP/IP is
TCP/IP.

sorry


> On the Alpha system: ping odyssey
On the Windows: ping jupiter1

OK

I well order other switsh, but meanwhile I well try cross cable without switsh, I knew the way to convert usuall one to cross one, you tell me it works with these old alpha, how ever I well try, I think it is need the same settings??

with great thanks

[Steven Schweda]

> [...] I well try cross cable without
> switsh, [...]

It should work with any two systems, if they
have the same interface speeds (and other
settings). If you want to connect more than
two systems, then you need a hub or switch.

You might have your friend with the PCs try
your new switch with other systems.

[MNMC]

> if they
have the same interface speeds.

you mea the speed of the ethernet PCI cards??

I well try, how ever the jupiter1 PC is very old too but upgareded, and its ethernet PCI card is veru old too, I think it have the same speed with the alpha.

Thanks

[MNMC]

Hi

My cross cable network is woking very good, speed 10.0 Mbps

pinging in each node with the the other is good, 0% loss

lockal network in windows show connected status, and during "ping jupiter" in tru64, the received acitvity icreased in windows lockal network stutus.

Now im going to see how to transfare files and sahre some PC fat32 partition with alpha.

Thanks very very much.

[MNMC]

Please help, what I should now to copy files from alpha to PC??

[Rob Leadbeater]

Hi,

From the Windows PC, open a Command Prompt and type:

ftp odyssey

You should be prompted for a username. Log in as a user from the alpha. You can then use the commands cd to change directory and get to get a file.

Cheers,

Rob

[MNMC]

> get to get a file.

thanks very much.

I make as you say, the file transfared successfully, but where I can find it??

[Rob Leadbeater]

It will be in whatever directory the FTP program was started in.

Around here, when I start a command prompt this defaults to:

c:\Documents and Settings\rob_leadbeater

Cheers,

Rob

[MNMC]

Hallo

the files transfare is work good.

Is there a program for remote control and monitoring that tru64??

I have searched a lot and have tryied these "activity monitor", AnyplaceControl" and vncvwier, they are for windows to windows network.

I prefare monitoring so that printing midecal images of tru64 directly in windows printer.

[MNMC]

Hallo

I have found old CD for that digital unix, named "Graphics Support Services Software V4.1
for Windows NT" feb 1997 it is labeled "Digital Equip...."

I read in reame file and help topcs but not ensuer that I understand that it make monitoring for Windows NT, the both files are in one file attashmened.

thanks

[Rob Leadbeater]

Can you explain exactly what you want to "monitor" ?

[MNMC]

Thanks

I hope Im not a noisy man for my plenty quastions.

I think of monitoring the whole tru64 desktop CDE in the windows and controll it with windows mouse, of course if that is possible, and the resolusion of the tru64 in windows montoring well be the same of the original, so that I can print midecal images of tru64 in windows directly

with very thanks and sorry for my plenty troubling.

[Steven Schweda]

> [...] and vncvwier, they are for windows to
> windows network.

I thought that VNC was not restricted to
Windows. I don't know if you can find any
VNC software which will run on Tru64 V4.0D.

> I think of monitoring the whole tru64
> desktop CDE in the windows [...]

Do you need the whole CDE desktop, or are you
interested in some particular application(s)?
Any version of Tru64 should include the X
Window System (not Microsoft Windows), so if
you install an X server on your Windows PC
(and there are free ones available), then you
should be able to use the display, keyboard,
and mouse on the Windows PC to control most
graphical programs on the Tru64 system.

Try a Web search for, say,
windows "x server"