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CKalisiak
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Problems with SmartArray 5i RAID migration... Help?


Hello all,

I migrated from a Proliant ML370 G2 to a DL360 G2 to reduce power consumption, and part of that migration was to move the RAID-1 group that was installed in the ML370 G2.

When I started the migration to the DL360, I moved half of the mirror, so I would still have the other half in the ML370 just in case. The RAID group was discovered, and I told the 5i to ignore the one drive missing from the RAID group.

I am now comfortable with the DL360's stability, so I am ready to finish the migration. I dropped the second half of the mirror into the DL360, but it didn't automatically start rebuilding. I pulled up the Array Configuration GUI, but wasn't really able to learn much. So I switched to the CLI, and now I see what the problem is:

=> ctrl all show config
Smart Array 5i in Slot 0 ()
array A (Parallel SCSI, Unused Space: 0 MB)
logicaldrive 2 (279.4 GB, RAID 1+0, Interim Recovery Mode)
physicaldrive 1:0 (port 1:id 0 , Parallel SCSI, ??? GB, Failed)
physicaldrive 2:1 (port 2:id 1 , Parallel SCSI, 300 GB, OK)
unassigned
physicaldrive 2:0 (port 2:id 0 , Parallel SCSI, 300 GB, OK)

Does anyone have any idea how to remove 1:0 from logicaldrive 2, and configure 2:0 as a spare to rebuild onto? I tried a few different things, including adding 2:0 as a spare, and changing the RAID level to zero, to try to break the mirror, but those commands resulted in an "error" response. It might be that I was not typing the commands correctly, though.


Thanks in advance,
Chris
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KarloChacon
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Re: Problems with SmartArray 5i RAID migration... Help?

hi

well it looks like controller card messed up SCSI IDs

you can try but no guarantee is going to work
- remove HDD and run erase utility and insert HDD again

- update Firmware for controller

- also you can try putting HDDs back just to check HDDs and if you get the same issue in the previous server

- if that does not work you must backup you half RAID 1 ASAP and recreate it all

bye
Didn't your momma teach you to say thanks!
gregersenj
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Re: Problems with SmartArray 5i RAID migration... Help?

Looking at:
=> ctrl all show config
Smart Array 5i in Slot 0 ()
array A (Parallel SCSI, Unused Space: 0 MB)
logicaldrive 2 (279.4 GB, RAID 1+0, Interim Recovery Mode)
physicaldrive 1:0 (port 1:id 0 , Parallel SCSI, ??? GB, Failed)
physicaldrive 2:1 (port 2:id 1 , Parallel SCSI, 300 GB, OK)
unassigned
physicaldrive 2:0 (port 2:id 0 , Parallel SCSI, 300 GB, OK)

It appears that the ML370 is using scsi port 1 and the DL360 is using port 2.
I haven't been able to verify that.

You must understand that the metadata say that the mirror originally was located at Port 1 ID 1 and 2.

You have moved HDD 1:1 to 2:1 or 2:0 (I'm not sure wich one is the unassagined)
But it is still waiting for the other Mirror member to be installed on port 1 ID 0.

I see 3 options to choose from.
Take good backup, and prepare an emergency restore plan.

1. Shutdown and power off the server.
Move the disk the ML (Wich must be powered off and all drives removed)
Insert the drive in Port 1 ID 1.
Power up the server and leave the smart array in interim recovery mode.
You don't need to boot the O/S.
Insert a disk in port 1 ID 0.
Let the mirror rebuild.
power down the ML
move both drives to the DL and power it up.
The DL will tell you that the drives appear to has changed places.
I'll guess, that the drive did that when you moved it in the first place.

2. Assign a Hot spare, the mirror and for ever use the hotspare as a part of the mirror. That will leave the mirror redundant, but forever degraded, since it's waiting for the missing disk to be installed.

3. Start all over from scratch = delete array, create new array, and use your emergency recovery plan and backup.

good luck
/jag

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gregersenj
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Re: Problems with SmartArray 5i RAID migration... Help?

CKalisiak
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Re: Problems with SmartArray 5i RAID migration... Help?


Thanks for the replies. I was hoping for an elegant solution, but yeah, it looks like the only option that will help is the brute-force sledgehammer approach.

I'll use Norton Ghost to make a full system image of the drive I'm using now, call it A, and will nuke drives B and C and create a whole new mirror. Then I'll restore Ghost to B and C, and make sure it's ok. I'll wait for the rebuild to finish, shut back down, pull out B and C, reinstall A, power back up, and nuke drive A. Then shut back down again, install drive B, then as the system is booting, reinstall drive A.

Hopefully at that point my RAID problems will be gone, and B+C and A+C will be valid combinations again.

(I swap A and B around to take snapshots of my system, for storage in the firesafe, in addition to backing up to SDLT220.)

Thanks,
Chris
gregersenj
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Re: Problems with SmartArray 5i RAID migration... Help?

Well you don't need to do the sledgehammer.
If it's possible for you to shutdown the ML for 1 -2 hours

Read solution option 1.

but first backup backup backup.

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CKalisiak
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Re: Problems with SmartArray 5i RAID migration... Help?


Yes, that's true, option #1 that you offered might take less time, but I don't have 100% confidence in Norton Ghost's ability to full restore an image.

I am pretty close to 99% confident, but I am very risk averse when it comes to my data, which is why I have a mirror with two drives that I swap on a monthly basis, in addition to SDLT backup.

What I don't want to have happen is for the Ghost backup not to work for some reason, and only to find this out because I had to restore after the 5i decided to rebuild onto the wrong drive.

No problems, though, thanks for your time.

Chris
gregersenj
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Re: Problems with SmartArray 5i RAID migration... Help?

True, there's alway a risk, that why I encurage for a backup, and an emergency restore plan.

If only you put the drive, that you want to maintain in the ML, in position 1, or any other than 0.
Power up the server.
When the SA prompts you that the drive has changed position - Accept (F1)
When it ask you if it has to be in interim recovery mode - accept (F2 or nothing)
As soon as the array is in interim recovery mode, insert a drive in position 0, and it will rebuild.

As soon as rebuild has finished, you can power down and move the drives to the DL

You can create a spare, let it rebuild.
When you move the drive (With the DL powered off) put the spare aside.
A little extra safety.

what ever you do, good luck.

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CKalisiak
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Re: Problems with SmartArray 5i RAID migration... Help?


Thank you for following up. Ok, I'll give that a try.

Thanks,
Chris
CKalisiak
Occasional Advisor

Re: Problems with SmartArray 5i RAID migration... Help?


The rebuild took like 5 or 6 hours, but, yes, rebuilding the mirror in the ML370 then moving the drives to the DL360 worked!

(Worked even better than my idea of using Norton Ghost, because Ghost made a mess of the partitions when I tried to restore the backup...)

Thanks,
Chris
CKalisiak
Occasional Advisor

Re: Problems with SmartArray 5i RAID migration... Help?


Does anyone have any idea why my DL360 G2 would have spontaneously rebooted three times in the last 36 hours after completing the rebuild? The system was stable prior to this rebuild.

The event log gives no indication of what occurred at the time of the reboot, and a scandisk of the system partition shows no problems.

I don't want to run the risk of having any databases or filesystems be corrupted by these spontaneous reboots, so I shut down and pulled the half of the mirror back out, partly because that's all that I changed, and partly to have a valid backup in case the reboots continue and corrupt the system.

Comments?

Chris
gregersenj
Honored Contributor

Re: Problems with SmartArray 5i RAID migration... Help?

If possible check the IML.

Ahh also, it's DL360 G? - Check that the drive backplane i properly seated:
Power down the server.
Remove the Lid.
Look at the backplane, it's sitting vertical on the system board.
On the G1 models (White) the backplane was secured with a "latch" and a finger screw.
That security has been removed on G3, mayby also on G2.
Check if you can see an opening, where the connectors meet. If so just push down on the backplane.
removing and inserting the drives may caurse marginal connection.

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CKalisiak
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Re: Problems with SmartArray 5i RAID migration... Help?


Ok, this is the contents of the log. Note how there wasn't much to report except for the fact that the mirror hadn't been rebuilt prior to Sunday. Since rebuilding the mirror on Sunday, however, there have been numerous errors, including three spontaneous reboots.

None of the hardware was touched in this system, only the system disk in bay 1 was removed, to perform the rebuild, and then bays 0 and 1 were populated.

I installed no other software, and touched no other hardware.

Chris


"POST Error: 1787-Drive Array Operating in Interim Recovery Mode",POST Messages,Caution,1,9/23/2008 9:55 PM,9/23/2008 9:55 PM
"POST Error: 1787-Drive Array Operating in Interim Recovery Mode",POST Messages,Caution,1,9/24/2008 10:05 AM,9/24/2008 10:05 AM
"POST Error: 1787-Drive Array Operating in Interim Recovery Mode",POST Messages,Caution,1,9/26/2008 4:55 PM,9/26/2008 4:55 PM
"POST Error: 1787-Drive Array Operating in Interim Recovery Mode",POST Messages,Caution,2,9/28/2008 1:25 PM,9/28/2008 1:22 PM
"POST Error: 1787-Drive Array Operating in Interim Recovery Mode",POST Messages,Caution,1,9/28/2008 4:24 PM,9/28/2008 4:24 PM
"POST Error: 1726-Drive Array - Array Accelerator Memory Size Change Detected",POST Messages,Caution,1,9/28/2008 11:18 PM,9/28/2008 11:18 PM
"POST Error: 1724-Drive Array - Physical Drive Position Change(s) Detected",POST Messages,Caution,1,9/28/2008 11:18 PM,9/28/2008 11:18 PM
"Blue Screen Trap (BugCheck, STOP: 0x000000D1 (0x00000015, 0x00000002, 0x00000001, 0xF71871FF))",Operating System,Critical,1,9/29/2008 1:43 PM,9/29/2008 1:43 PM
"Blue Screen Trap (BugCheck, STOP: 0x00000077 (0xC000000E, 0xC000000E, 0x00000000, 0x012F1000))",Operating System,Critical,1,9/29/2008 7:03 PM,9/29/2008 7:03 PM
"Blue Screen Trap (BugCheck, STOP: 0x000000D1 (0x00000018, 0x00000002, 0x00000001, 0xF71871FF))",Operating System,Critical,1,9/29/2008 7:18 PM,9/29/2008 7:18 PM
"POST Error: 1726-Drive Array - Array Accelerator Memory Size Change Detected",POST Messages,Caution,1,9/29/2008 10:56 PM,9/29/2008 10:56 PM
"POST Error: 1724-Drive Array - Physical Drive Position Change(s) Detected",POST Messages,Caution,1,9/29/2008 10:56 PM,9/29/2008 10:56 PM
"POST Error: 1787-Drive Array Operating in Interim Recovery Mode",POST Messages,Caution,1,9/29/2008 10:56 PM,9/29/2008 10:56 PM
"Blue Screen Trap (BugCheck, STOP: 0x000000D1 (0x00000016, 0xD0000002, 0x00000001, 0xF7180F27))",Operating System,Critical,1,9/30/2008 3:21 AM,9/30/2008 3:21 AM
"Blue Screen Trap (BugCheck, STOP: 0x000000D1 (0x00000015, 0xD0000002, 0x00000001, 0xF7180F27))",Operating System,Critical,17,9/30/2008 3:59 AM,9/30/2008 3:24 AM
"Blue Screen Trap (BugCheck, STOP: 0x000000D1 (0x00000015, 0xD0000002, 0x00000001, 0xF7180F27))",Operating System,Critical,28,9/30/2008 4:58 AM,9/30/2008 4:01 AM
"Blue Screen Trap (BugCheck, STOP: 0x000000D1 (0x00000015, 0xD0000002, 0x00000001, 0xF7180F27))",Operating System,Critical,24,9/30/2008 5:58 AM,9/30/2008 5:00 AM
"Blue Screen Trap (BugCheck, STOP: 0x000000D1 (0x00000014, 0xD0000002, 0x00000001, 0xF7180F27))",Operating System,Critical,4,9/30/2008 5:41 AM,9/30/2008 5:15 AM
"Blue Screen Trap (BugCheck, STOP: 0x000000D1 (0x00000015, 0xD0000002, 0x00000001, 0xF7180F27))",Operating System,Critical,28,9/30/2008 6:58 AM,9/30/2008 6:00 AM
"Blue Screen Trap (BugCheck, STOP: 0x000000D1 (0x00000015, 0xD0000002, 0x00000001, 0xF7180F27))",Operating System,Critical,23,9/30/2008 7:55 AM,9/30/2008 7:00 AM
"Blue Screen Trap (BugCheck, STOP: 0x000000D1 (0x00000014, 0xD0000002, 0x00000001, 0xF7180F27))",Operating System,Critical,2,9/30/2008 7:24 AM,9/30/2008 7:20 AM
"Blue Screen Trap (BugCheck, STOP: 0x0000000A (0x00000014, 0xD0000002, 0x00000001, 0xF7180F27))",Operating System,Critical,1,9/30/2008 7:27 AM,9/30/2008 7:27 AM
"POST Error: 1789-Drive Not Responding, Physical Drive",POST Messages,Caution,1,9/30/2008 8:16 AM,9/30/2008 8:16 AM
"POST Error: 1787-Drive Array Operating in Interim Recovery Mode",POST Messages,Caution,1,9/30/2008 8:16 AM,9/30/2008 8:16 AM
"Blue Screen Trap (BugCheck, STOP: 0x000000D1 (0x00000018, 0xD0000002, 0x00000001, 0xF7180F27))",Operating System,Critical,1,9/30/2008 5:09 PM,9/30/2008 5:09 PM
"POST Error: 1787-Drive Array Operating in Interim Recovery Mode",POST Messages,Caution,1,9/30/2008 5:10 PM,9/30/2008 5:10 PM
gregersenj
Honored Contributor

Re: Problems with SmartArray 5i RAID migration... Help?

Hi

I have searched the web, this is what I have found:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;228753

It does indicate hdd subsystem problem.
Check HDD backplane, as sugested.
Test with 1 disk only, as you're doing.

Good thing is, that now it will rebuild correctly, no matter wich of the disks you are using.
Beware to maintain posistion.

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