Win XP on ML310 G4 with RAID 1

[Joseph Barbier]

Hi,
i create a raid 1 on my ML310 g4, and i have to install win xp pro (the software i have to use doesnt work on w2k3)

when i install, it ask me that there is no hard drive. when i try to specify some drivers (HP drivers but, for 2k3), it doesn't work.
i tried with others drivers for ICH7 (because the Sata card is an onboard ICH7.) but it still doesnt work.

is anybody have the solution to install properly windows XP pro on a raid1 on this computer ?

thanks in advance
regards
Joseph

[James ~ Happy Dude]

Hello Joseph,

"If" you are using the correct drivers, You may using a 3rd party software nLITE & integrate this drivers to the OS; & create a bootable CD.

Refer:

www.nliteos.com

Regards,
James.

[Joseph Barbier]

unfortunately, i haven't find the correct driver for the embedded sata/raid card on this computer.

i tried many drivers, and some others drivers from others manufacturers with the same chipset (ICH7) but, it doesnt recognize it...

i called HP support this afternoon and they told me that there is no drivers for Win XP for this...
only 2k3 is supported by HP drivers on the website.

if you have some drivers which works on this card, it will help me a lot.

thanks,
regards,
Joseph

[HP_Sammy]

Hi Joseph,

Models described as SAS models include an 8-port host bus adapter (HBA) that supports both SATA and SAS hard drives in non-RAID, RAID 0, or RAID 1 configurations. HP 8 Internal Port SAS HBA with RAID (in PCI-X slot) (SAS Models)
Models described as SATA/SAS support SATA hard drives standard, and require the installation of an HBA or controller to support SAS. Embedded SATA with integrated SATA RAID 0,1 (SATA/SAS Models)


Co could u tell me which controller is installed in the server.
And also are u using an hp fdd or a 3rd party fdd.

Cheers :)

[James ~ Happy Dude]

I wish I could Joseph,
But This server only supports a set of OS, which does not include Xp;

http://h18023.www1.hp.com/support/files/server/us/family/model/6308.html?submit.y=4&submit.x=13〈=en&cc=uk

Regards,
James.

[James ~ Happy Dude]

Hello HP_Sammy,

Joseph is referring to the SATA/SAS drivers for XP; All that you suggested is true, however you cant proceed without the drivers; Can u ?

I would be interested !

Regards,
James.

[Joseph Barbier]

i use only the sata onboard i dont have the exact name with me, i'm not @ work anymore , and i use a 3rd party internal fdd.
i plugged it and it looks working fine.

i saw that XP is not on the list of supported OS, but it's strange that basics ICH7 drivers (i tried with drivers from different motherboards with ICH7) doesnt work with this card. it's an Intel chipset. why HP block it with some specific drivers ? :)

excuse my english...

so, i need the drivers, i think it will be ok with my floppy :)

regards
Joseph

[HP_Sammy]

Hi Joseph,

Try the following driver

http://h18000.www1.hp.com/support/files/server/us/download/26742.html

Try to use HP USB fdd if possible if not then will have to add the manufacturer id of fdd to the txtsetup.oem last line and its one of the file in the above driver link.

eg of last line of the file will be will be like

"
[HardwareIds.scsi.ADAPTEC_AHCIRAID]
# Intel
id = "PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_27C3&SUBSYS_3206103C", "adpahci"
id = "PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2682&SUBSYS_31FE103C", "adpahci"

"


And for eg if u r using a sony fdd then in add the following in the last line


id = "USB\VID_054C&PID_002C", "usbstor" #--Sony




Where in the above eg "USB\VID_054C&PID_002C" is the manufacturer id and Sony is the vendors name.


And if u can find ur manufacturer id in the floppy drive driver's .inf file , and make sure any legacy floppy drives are disabled in the system Bios.


And if the above drivers doesnt work then try 1 of the old drivers from the link below

http://h18000.www1.hp.com/support/files/server/us/revision/9780.html


Cheers :)

[Joseph Barbier]

i tried with the drivers that you gave me the link with an internal fdd. do i have to do the same thing that you describe if i use a old internal fdd ? the fdd seems working fine.

the controller's name, given by HP Smart Start is "intel 82801 GR SATA RAID controller" so i tried too with drivers from intel.
and it doesnt work...
this chip is on many motherboard, but HP add something that which make not working with others drivers than HP drivers.

when i disable the RAID option in the bios, i can install windows XP (i'm doing it now, i hope it will work properly...)

regards
Joseph

[Joseph Barbier]

so, i called HP support again.

finally, i talk with someone which know a little more about computer than the first time.

this computer is not compatible with XP...
HP will not provide drivers for components...
great idea...
so, my server is useless...
thanks to HP who didn't tell me that when i order it...

i think i will install a 2k3 on it, then a XP on a virtual machine...

thanks for your help guys, u are more efficient than HP support :)

[KarloChacon]

hi Joseph

as you can see here ML310 G4 does not support XP
http://urlao.com/windowsmatrix

but a lot of people try that if you make a research using XP you will find a lot of results (good ones and not at all) people do this on their own because XP is not supported

I think is more an issue with Microsoft why? because they should include this driver for the controller (in that way avoid a lot of headaches)


so at the end which is your controller card?
this one intel 82801 GR SATA RAID?

regards

[Joseph Barbier]

yes, it is this controler

intel 82801 GR SATA RAID

but, it is a special release tweaked by HP, because all the drivers for a normal intel 82801 GR SATA RAID doesn't work at all with this one...

regards
Joseph

[HP_Sammy]

Hi Joseph,


Try this driver

http://h18007.www1.hp.com/support/files/server/us/download/25527.html


Cheers :)

[James ~ Happy Dude]

I don't Understand;

When there are "NO" drivers for one to Install windows XP onto this server, Whats the point install ALL OTHER available Drivers ????

HP_Sammy the link that you provided above; If you read carefully, it reads :

"Supported Devices and Features
Microsoft Windows Server 2000 ,Microsoft Windows Server 2003 and Microsoft Windows Server 2003 x64 Editions."

As you see "Windows XP" is missing;

Had this NOT been a 100 series server, all this would have been helpful; & even XP would have been installed successfully. But here, its insane, installing every other drivers for other OS versions.

Regards,
James.

[Blazhev_1]

Hi,

Sujith has right and I support him 100%.

Even if you succesfully install XP , then you will have a lot of troubles finding other drivers that function normally...

Regards,
Pac

[Blazhev_1]

Hi again,

don't see why you blame HP support...

>>i called HP support this afternoon and they told me that there is no drivers for Win XP for this...

What can HP support do? Write new drivers?

>>HP will not provide drivers for components...
so, my SERVER is useless...
thanks to HP who didn't tell me that when i order it...

You said it - YOUR SERVER , XP is not a Server operating system and 2nd it is not HP work to tell you that before you buy, if you aksed the would tell you... and there is :

www.hp.com/go/supportos , where you can always check OS support before you buy. And there is a pre-sales department where you can always call and ask if smthg is supported...

I don't say HP support don't make mistakes, but in this situation it is not their fault...

Regards,
Pac

[James ~ Happy Dude]

Hello Joseph,

At this point, I know it would be bit uneasy for u to install a different OS other than your Choice; However, Accepting the Fact; You may work on it as a Virtual Machine;



PAC: Thanks; However, Imagine yourself in the same situation, Ur reaction will be exactly the same. When we Rely on a Brand, we tend to neglect these smaller details.

PEACE !


Regards,
James.

[HP_Sammy]

Hi Joseph,

Please try the below driver

http://www.soft32.com/download_177465.html


Cheers :)