Equivalent of a N-Class Server

[Bernd Huber]

Hi,
we are in the process of laying out our structure for the next year(s). Currently we are running a progress database of a 2-way N-4000 with 4 GB of RAM.
Does anybody have a suggestion, what would be an equivalent in current servers provided by HP ?
Thank you very much,

Bernd

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[Duncan Edmonstone · Accepted solution]

rp7410 is basically the new N class - very similar beast:

http://www.hp.com/products1/servers/rackoptimized/rp7410/index.html

HTH

Duncan

[harry d brown jr]

Bernd,

You could easily add some more cpu's and memory, being that the N's (rp7400's) are VERY VERY cheap now. Even HP's reconditioned (used) parts and servers are very cheap!

The N-class (rp7400) can have 8 cpu's and Many GIG's of memory.

live free or die
harry

[Bernd Huber]

Harry,
now that you mention it ... can you put a ballpark figure out for "very very cheap" ?

Thanks,

Bernd

[Pete Randall]

Bernd,

A5866A 550 Mhz CPU - $6500
A4923A 1024MB DRAM - $1800

HTH,
Pete

[Bernd Huber]

And the price of a rp7400/rp7410 ?
I found starting prices at 69K, does that sound about right ?
Thanks,

Bernd

[Pete Randall]

New, direct from HP, $69K is probably low end for a 2 CPU box with at least 4GB RAM - more like $75k to $80K.

HTH,
Pete

[Pete Randall]

Bernd,

Still ballpark, but maybe a little closer:

rp7400 with - 19,900
2 650MHz CPU - 17,500 each
proc support module - 1835
4 1024MB DRAM - 4500 each
2 18GB internal disk - 1775 ea

That's $69,285 for a pretty basic system and you still have to add on Lan cards, i/o cards, etc.

Good Luck,
Pete

[harry d brown jr]

Bernd,

Yes VERY CHEAP means I purchased an N-class at the beginning of last year at a sttep discount for 6cpu's and 10GB of memory for 230K, today that same machine goes for about 97K (all us dollars) from HP (remarketed - used).

The CPU's used to cost about 18K!

HP might even have a trade UP program to move from the rp7400 (the old n-class) to the rp7410. But I'd just upgrade the N as is, unless you need the split bus and faster cpu's in the rp7410.

live free or die
harry

[Tim D Fulford]

Hi just an idea, If the database is big on throughput then the N/rp74xx will do the trick, but as you are only using 2 CPU's why not go for an L or rp54xx with 2 CPU's. When I last looked they savings on the CPUs was
N - $23,000 per CPU
L - $14,000 per CPU

Nearly 1/2 the price and a smaller footprint. The CPU's are identical (apart from a couple of bumps to stop you buying the cheap CPU's & installing them in an expensice chassis).

If you want to be really radical (or dirt cheap)....if the box is really only CPU intensive you could even go to an A class, you will not have much in the way of PCI slots but you can get FC/SCSI stuff for the disks etc...

You can price these out for yourself using the hp URL:
https://www.e-solutions.hp.com/shop/cgi-bin/sweetspot.cgi

Regards

Tim

[Tony Bacon]

Prices have definately went down on the N4000 Hardware. For $27,000 you can get an N Class with (4) 440MHz CPUs, 4GB Memory all with warranty and eligible for support.

Tony Bacon
tbacon@escorp.com

[Dave Wherry]

To price a new 7410 (list price) you can go here and build a configuration:
https://www.e-solutions.hp.com/auth/cgi-bin/welcome.cgi?login=1

I agree with the others. If you are only at 2 processors now, you still have a lot of life left in the N box.
Depending on how old that N is, one consideration may be maintenance costs. A new box comes with warranty service while you will pay more each year as the old system gets older. Your cost of ownership could be lower with a new box. The 7410 also does partitioning so you might be able to get other use out of it. Server consolidation could save you money elsewhere.

[MANOJ SRIVASTAVA]

Hi Brend


You may also look at the following :

http://www.tpc.org/information/results.asp



This is a good price /performance industry site.


Manoj Srivastava