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Re: SMA upgrade to Windows 2003 (Management Server)

 
Fabian_Nowee
Super Advisor

SMA upgrade to Windows 2003 (Management Server)

I'm currently struggeling with two SMA's. CPU% are at 100, doesn't want to reboot, ISEE will not install etc.

The 2 SMA's are a mess. two options, use the restore CD or make a new management server based on Windows2003.

Is this possible, are there restrictions?

btw, the customer has 4 eva's & 2 msa1500's fully configured (48TB)

thanks in advance.
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Richard Perez
Valued Contributor

Re: SMA upgrade to Windows 2003 (Management Server)

Please use the restore CD

BTW, why an upgrade to 2003 could solve the problems you are having? Do you know if 2003 is supported in the SMA?
Fabian_Nowee
Super Advisor

Re: SMA upgrade to Windows 2003 (Management Server)

some of the advantages windows2003 management gives is that i can use other tools (MRTG etc) and have an heterogenic Management server. (in combination with ESE).


It's a 2.4Ghz xeon 2GB machine, should be capable of many nice things. CVE 4.0 is supported on a standalone Windows 2003 server.
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Uwe Zessin
Honored Contributor

Re: SMA upgrade to Windows 2003 (Management Server)

Richard,
my understanding is that he does a new installation of Windows Server 2003 (with an appropriate license). The important difference between an SMA and a standard ProLiant server is a different serial number range so that the restore CD does only install on the SMA hardware.

CV-EVA V3.3.* is supported on a standard server, too.
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Fabian_Nowee
Super Advisor

Re: SMA upgrade to Windows 2003 (Management Server)

Yes, Uwe, a new installation and 3.3.* is also possible, yes.

I guess the additional license will not cost too much.

I "hear" that there are limitations about the number of eva's you can manage, 4 instead of 16, is this correct?

Is the Bios limited? or is this only applicable on the NAS Machines?
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Uwe Zessin
Honored Contributor

Re: SMA upgrade to Windows 2003 (Management Server)

Yes, I've read about 4 EVAs on a non-SMA management server, too - should be in one of the EOL documents available through the SMA/ OVSOM web pages, but I have heard that this limit is about to be lifted in the future. My guess is that they simply did not test more, because the CPU or memory in a standard ProLiant should not be a problem.

I don't think the SMA's BIOS is limited - it has just a different serial number range for the reason I've explained above. There's been some talk about replacing the OSM with a standard Windows OS in some document. I don't recall any details, because I have not bothered about this process - there is only so much time :-(

I've never seriously considered a NAS box for EVA management - it might have changed now, but when I checked it, not all required service tools were supported on the NAS box. Perhaps somebody who has gone that route can share his/her experience?
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Fabian_Nowee
Super Advisor

Re: SMA upgrade to Windows 2003 (Management Server)

for the record, we are not considering a nas box to use for EVA management.

But, í'm thinking to keep one SMA working normaly and perhaps to upgrade the second SM
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Matt Tourney
Frequent Advisor

Re: SMA upgrade to Windows 2003 (Management Server)

Gentlemen, I just received the attached advisory in my inbox that explains how to convert an SMA platform into a general purpose server AND be supported by HP.

I hope this helps!
Matt
huh?
Fabian_Nowee
Super Advisor

Re: SMA upgrade to Windows 2003 (Management Server)

thanks!

Is there also something about limit's
(number of eva's) documented?
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Uwe Zessin
Honored Contributor

Re: SMA upgrade to Windows 2003 (Management Server)

Yes. If you download the OVSOM specifications, it's at the bottom of page 4 of the .PDF file (version 10).
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Craig Howe_1
Regular Advisor

Re: SMA upgrade to Windows 2003 (Management Server)

Hi

Back to the first post, we had problems with 100% cpu because of installing YEAH on the SMA. (Yet Another Event Analyser) It mentioned in the new release that the 100% CPU bug would be fixed, but these versions were no better than previous.

Uninstalled it and went with the alternative and things were fine.
Fabian_Nowee
Super Advisor

Re: SMA upgrade to Windows 2003 (Management Server)

Are there already people who have done this?

W2k3 standard in combination with CVE 4.1
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Steven Clementi
Honored Contributor

Re: SMA upgrade to Windows 2003 (Management Server)

I am running 3 separate Storage Management Servers...

Windows Server 2003 SP1
Command View EVA 4.1.1.3
SANSurfer
RSM 1.2
Access to vdisks (for testing)


no problems, works great.

Steven
Steven Clementi
HP Master ASE, Storage, Servers, and Clustering
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VCP (ESX2, Vi3, vSphere4, vSphere5, vSphere 6.x)
RHCE
NPP3 (Nutanix Platform Professional)
Uwe Zessin
Honored Contributor

Re: SMA upgrade to Windows 2003 (Management Server)

Yes, with 3.3.?, 4.0, 4.0.1, 4.1 + 4.1.1
Works fine.
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Steven Clementi
Honored Contributor

Re: SMA upgrade to Windows 2003 (Management Server)

Win2k3 Standard... that is.

Started out with CV-EVA 4.0 as well... so I know what Uwe says is try... has 4.0, 4.0.1, 4.1 and 4.1.1 and everything else inbetween.


Steven
Steven Clementi
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Fabian_Nowee
Super Advisor

Re: SMA upgrade to Windows 2003 (Management Server)

So based on SMA model III hardware?

(just to make sure, I just got an error from the restore CD, so there's probably no other solution :) )
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Steven Clementi
Honored Contributor

Re: SMA upgrade to Windows 2003 (Management Server)

Oh... not at all.. I am using DL380G4's.

I haven't converted an SMA.


Steven
Steven Clementi
HP Master ASE, Storage, Servers, and Clustering
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RHCE
NPP3 (Nutanix Platform Professional)
Steven Clementi
Honored Contributor

Re: SMA upgrade to Windows 2003 (Management Server)

You should not need to use the restore CD. In fact, you want to use the Smart Start CD and a Win2k3 Standard cd and set the box up like you would set up a normal Proliant.


Steven
Steven Clementi
HP Master ASE, Storage, Servers, and Clustering
MCSE (NT 4.0, W2K, W2K3)
VCP (ESX2, Vi3, vSphere4, vSphere5, vSphere 6.x)
RHCE
NPP3 (Nutanix Platform Professional)
Fabian_Nowee
Super Advisor

Re: SMA upgrade to Windows 2003 (Management Server)

I turned today a SMAIII in a general Purpose server. (W2k3 no SP1 because of 3025)

I installed CVE4, but no default page?
I Installed IIS, reinstalled CVE, but still no management page

I tried all user and installation guides, but no chapter about IIS settings....

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Uwe Zessin
Honored Contributor

Re: SMA upgrade to Windows 2003 (Management Server)

IIS??

CV-EVA lives in the ProLiant system management home page and its web server. You either install via SmartStart or put a PSP on the system.
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Fabian_Nowee
Super Advisor

Re: SMA upgrade to Windows 2003 (Management Server)

Thanks, it works.

I was comparing it with Windows2000.. our primary sma is still running on sma v2.1 w2k cve 3.3.3

I see it now in our System Management HomePage... great!
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