10.20 install errors

[David Preston_4]

Hi,
I have a k box that I picked up second hand, so I was cleaning out the file systems and removed everything, Yeah I know really dumb.
Now I am trying to re install 10.20 from the CORE CD.
I get to the welcome menu and select INSTALL, from there I get a network information screen that I fill out, and then it attempts to read files. At that point I start to get error messages beginning with one for tar, then cant find various files.
It seems that it wants to break out a tar file, and then use the contents, but can't.

Anyone have any suggestions? Its not under support yet so a helpline call is out for now, and it came with 10.2 on it, I am just trying to reinstall it.

Dave
(Yes I took the Admin classes and laughed about rm -r *, I just didn't look to see where I was. glad it wasn't production.

[Denver Osborn]

Is this 10.20 Core-OS Install for series 700 or series 800? Have you also tried using another CD?

-denver

[David Preston_4]

I have 2 CDs: 1 for 10.0 which won't even get to the install screen, and the 10.2 which i described earlier.
any suggestions?
I have a production box with the same basic configutation, also on 10.2 is there a routine for creating an install tape? they both have DAT drives.

Dave

[Kenneth Platz]

David,

What model of K-class are you using, and what is the date on the CD you are trying to install from? Some of the newer K-class servers can only install from newer releases of the 10.20 media.

[David Preston_4]

The K box is from 1995, it originally came with 10.0, when I got it it had 10.20 on it and the disk I was using was newer than the system, its the one my main system came with in 97. I have its original cd for 10.0, but that doesn't even get that far.

Going bact to an earlier question, can I use my production box to create a tape to use for booting?
possibly even a direct copy of the CD?

Dave

[Joseph C. Denman]

I have had problems in the past with newer hardware than the core os. For example we were trying to do a cold install on a K580 with the 10.20 (1996) core os. It failed when tring to probe devices. Your case seems a little different, but the reason may be the same. If the hardware is not supported by the core os, the install will fail. You are probably using the same 1996 core os as well. I suggest attempting the load with the Apr 99 build as a first attempt. If that fails, I would think you have a hardware problem somewhere.

Hope this helps...

...jcd...

[Pedro Sousa]

Try not to configure your network so soon. Configure it after you installed the OS.
Maybe it helps!
good luck.

[David Preston_4]

Thanks for the suggestions, but I am still at ground zero.

OK, I have an Idea that may be a bit nuts, but I would like to know what you think,

since I have a production box that is very similar, which is fully mirrored. can I install one of the disks from the new box, create it as a bootable disk and mirror another copy of my root VG onto it, then gracefully remove it and put it in the new box and have it boot?

Yes I am fishing.
Dave

[Patrick Wallek]

David,

If both machines have a DDS then you should investigate using Ignite/UX to make a backup of your working machine (using the make_recovery or make_tape_recovery command). This will create a bootable image of your current system, then you can boot from the tape on your new system, modify all appropriate parameters, like IP address, and see if it installs.

To get Ignite/UX (it is FREE): http://software.hp.com/products/IUX

The command I use to create my tapes:

make_recovery -A -i -d /dev/rmt/?mn

[Tony Watts]

David,
I have found that, on all the servers and workstations i've installed to, I prefer to setup networking, after I have the os installed and all my file systems and volumes setup, I seem to get less or no errors this way, essentially its the last thing I do before I place it on the network. Hope this helps...Tony

[Tony Watts]

David, I was also thinking, perhaps you should initialze the drive, as part of your install, this may help having a clean drive, perhaps the reason for errors is because of prior ownership of the box...Tony

[David Preston_4]

I am currently downloading the ingnite ux, I think that was the answer i was looking for.
As far as the network questions go, I had not connected the new box to the network, I was just following the prompts I was given.

Thanks for the help, I will let you know if the make recovery was the solution.
Dave

[David Preston_4]

I downloaded Ignite, but the documentation stinks, do you have the cookbook approach to install the downloaded file?

Dave

[Patrick Wallek]

Install ignite with the swinstall command.

swinstall -s /dir/ignite_file_downloaded.depot

After that do a:

/opt/ignite/bin/make_recovery -A -i -d /dev/rmt/?mn

[David Preston_4]

I get the message:

There is currently no depot software on host "stone_k" at location "/ignite_ux/ignite_us_10_20.tar".

but that is the file name and directory.

Dave

[Patrick Wallek]

If you just type swinstall, it will start and then bring up a box with a field where you to enter the source depot path. Enter the path to the downloaded file there.

The main swinstall window should then come up. You can then select the Ignite package, and do the install.

[David Preston_4]

I just keep getting the same error message, to I have to do something to the ".tar" file first to make it a depot?