Cloning rp7410 to rp4440 ?

[Jerry_109]

Hello HP,

I need to upgrade my current rp7410 to our new rp4440. Can I use ignite for cloning ? I'm concerned about the different architechture ?

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"make_tape_recovery -IAv":

Per man page:
-I Causes the system recovery process to be interactive when
booting from the tape. By default, when the systems boots
from the recovery tape, it will allow ten (10) seconds to
interrupt the automatic recovery process in order to make
modifications interactively. When the -I option is
specified, booting from the tape will always present the
interactive menus. This option is useful when making
configuration changes during the recovery, and may also help
prevent an accidental system recovery from a recovery tape
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rp7410:
B.11.11 U 9000/800/rp7410

rp4440:
no OS loaded yet

Jerry Sims
4155651630

[Patrick Wallek]

It might work. The rp7410 and rp4440 might be "close enough" in hardware to work. I'd say give it a shot and if it works great, if not, you haven't really lost anything but time.

One thing that may help is to make sure you are up to date on patches, specifically the Hardware Enablement patch bundle. Load it on the rp7410 before you create your tape, if possible.

[Fabio Ettore]

Hi,

I know people that cloning servers between rp-class. I don't think there are differencies on hardware platforms but it should work.
I heard many people that did that before but cannot find official documentation about that.

Good luck.

Best regards,
Fabio

[Steven E. Protter]

The farthest I've pushed this personally is rp5450 to rp5470.

That worked with an extra boot to deal with the hardware differences.

You might find its easier to go the Golden Image route, which reduces the hardware dependencies. Golden Images works better for software images.

I've replicated systems including Oracle DB/App server setups, so long as the database is down when the Golden image is made.

SEP

[Sreedhar Nathani]

Hi Jerry,

Ensure the following
a. Install latest Ignite Client on RP7410 before taking ignite backup
Use the following option while taking backup make_tape_recovery -IAv

b. While restoration on the advanced menu choose "Clone to Different Hardware", so that it will create a new kernel with required drivers to boot after ignite restore

Thanks
Sreedhar

[VIKAS AGRAWAL]

U can use the above mentioned command there is no problem with this command ,

make_tape_recovery -iAv , when u boot your new system with this tape then u can change the size of your os Partition also ( if required ) , Once your new system boots it runs insf -e automatically , to built new device driver files , in that case if there is any hardware change in systems then also u will not face any problem.

JUST MAKE SURE TO CALCULATE YOUR SWAP SPACE PROPERLY AS PER YOUR HARDWARE, IF BOTH SERVERS ARE HAVING THE SAME RAM & HARD DISK SIZE THEN NO PROBLEM . GO AHEAD & ENJOY

[Ted Buis]

I would be interested in knowing if you are successful with this. You are moving from a cell based architecture to a non-cell based architecture.

[Nguyen Anh Tien]

I am sure it works.
I had done with rp5470 and recover to rp4440.

[Armin Kunaschik]

It depends on the patch level of your clone host.
rp4440 has PA-8800 CPU's.
rp7410 has PA-8700 CPU's.
Maybe some adapter cards are differnet too
e.g. the SCSI controler with the vg00 disks.

You need to install all device drivers and patches for rp4440 on the rp7410 and clone it...
Try it. Maybe it works, maybe not :-)

My 2 cents,
Armin

[Jerry_109]

# swlist -l bundle
# Initializing...
# Contacting target "hohp101"...
#
# Target: hohp101:/
#

100BaseT-01 B.11.11.01 HP-PB 100BaseT;Supptd HW=A3495A;SW=J2759BA
B2491BA B.11.11 MirrorDisk/UX
B3701AA C.03.58.00 HP GlancePlus/UX Pak for s800 11i
B3929CA B.11.11 HP OnLineJFS
B5725AA C.6.0.109 HP-UX Installation Utilities (Ignite-UX)
B9788AA 1.3.1.08.00 Java2 1.3 SDK for HP-UX
BIND-920 B.11.11.01.001 BIND 9.2.0
BUNDLE11i B.11.11.0102.2 Required Patch Bundle for HP-UX 11i, February 2001
CDE-English B.11.11 English CDE Environment
DBSPIOracleHPUX A.06.00.00 HP OpenView DB-SPI: Oracle (HP-UX only)
ECSAuxiliary A.03.20 ECS Auxiliary
ECSCmgNNMHP11 A.03.20 ECS Config/Mgmt GUI for NNM (including Japanese support)
ECSComposer A.03.20 Correlation Composer
FDDI-00 B.11.11.02 PCI FDDI;Supptd HW=A3739A/A3739B;SW=J3626AA
FibrChanl-00 B.11.11.09 PCI/HSC FibreChannel;Supptd HW=A6684A,A6685A,A5158A,A6795A
GOLDAPPS11i B.11.11.0412.5 Gold Applications Patches for HP-UX 11i v1, December 2004
GOLDBASE11i B.11.11.0412.5 Gold Base Patches for HP-UX 11i v1, December 2004
GigEther-00 B.11.11.14 PCI/HSC GigEther;Supptd HW=A4926A/A4929A/A4924A/A4925A;SW=J1642AA
GigEther-01 B.11.11.04 PCI GigEther;Supptd HW=A6794A/A6825A/A6847A
HPUX11i-OE B.11.11.0206 HP-UX 11i Operating Environment Component
HPUXBase64 B.11.11 HP-UX 64-bit Base OS
HPUXBaseAux B.11.11.0206 HP-UX Base OS Auxiliary
HWEnable11i B.11.11.0412.5 Hardware Enablement Patches for HP-UX 11i v1, December 2004
ITOAgent A.07.10 VPO Agents
ITOEngOraAllUp A.07.10 VPO English Oracle without NNM, all Agents B.11.11
ITOEngSvcNav A.07.10 VPO ServiceNavigator English B.11.11
IUX-Recovery C.6.0.109 Ignite-UX network recovery tool subset
Ignite-UX-11-11 C.6.0.109 HP-UX Installation Utilities for Installing 11.11 Systems
J4189-11001B E.10.18 Hewlett-Packard JetDirect Printer Installer for Unix
NNMEngHP11Doc B.06.41.00 Network Node Manager Online Runtime Manuals - English version
NNMEngHP11full B.06.41.00 Network Node Manager
NNMEngHP11man B.06.41.00 Network Node Manager Man Pages
OVNNMETEngHP11 B.02.01.00 HP Openview Network Node Manager Extended Topology
OnlineDiag B.11.11.07.11 HPUX 11.11 Support Tools Bundle, Jun 2002
RAID-00 B.11.11.01 PCI RAID; Supptd HW=A5856A
T1456AA 1.4.1.05.01 Java2 1.4 SDK for HP-UX
T1457AA 1.4.1.01.04 Java2 1.4 RTE for HP-UX
T1458AA 1.4.0.01.00 Java2 1.4 Netscape Plugin for HP-UX
T1471AA A.03.81.002 HP-UX Secure Shell
TermIO-00 B.11.11.07 PCI MUX; Supptd HW=A6748A/A6749A/J3592A/J35923A; SW=J3596A
hpuxwsTomcat A.1.0.03.03 HP-UX Tomcat-based Servlet Engine
perl B.5.6.1.C Perl Programming Language
***************************************
# cat /stand/system
* Drivers and Subsystems

DlkmDrv
GSCtoPCI
PCItoPCI
arp
asio0
asp
autofsc
bs_osm
btlan
btlan1
c720
c8xx
cachefsc
cb
cdfs
cifs
clone
core
cxperf
dev_config
dev_olar
devkrs
diag0
diag1
diag2
dlkm
dlpi
dmem
echo
evp
fcT1
fcT1_cntl
fcT1_fcp
fcms
fcp
fcp_cdio
fcparray
fcpdev
fcpmux
fddi4
ffs
func0
gelan
hd_fabric
hpstreams
i2o_cdio
igelan
inet
iomem
iop_drv
ip
kepd
klog
krs
lasi
lba
ldterm
lv
lvm
maclan
netdiag1
netqa
nfs_client
nfs_core
nfs_server
nfsm
nms
nuls
olar_psm
olar_psm_if
pa_generic_psm
pa_psm
pat_psm
pci
pci_mux0
pckt
pipedev
pipemod
ptem
ptm
pts
rawip
rpcmod
sad
sapic
sba
sc
sctl
sdisk
stape
stcpmap
strlog
strpty_included
strtelnet_included
tcp
td
telm
tels
timod
tirdwr
tlclts
tlcots
tlcotsod
token_arp
tun
udp
ufs
uipc
vxfs
vxportal
wsio


* Kernel Device info

ipmi
ipmi_psm
dump lvol

* Tunable parameters

STRMSGSZ 65535
dbc_max_pct 10
dnlc_hash_locks 512
max_mem_window 2
max_thread_proc 1024
maxdsiz 0X50000000
maxdsiz_64bit 0X400000000
maxfiles 2048
maxfiles_lim 2048
maxssiz 0X8000000
maxssiz_64bit 0X40000000
maxswapchunks 8192
maxtsiz 0X4000000
maxtsiz_64bit 0X40000000
maxuprc (NPROC-5)
maxusers 800
maxvgs 80
msgmap (NPROC+2)
msgmni (NPROC)
msgseg (NPROC*4)
msgssz 128
msgtql (NPROC)
ncallout (NKTHREAD+1)
ncsize ((8*NPROC+2048)+VX_NCSIZE)
nfile (15*NPROC+2048)
nflocks (NPROC)
ninode (8*NPROC+2048)
npty 800
nstrpty 800
nstrtel 800
nswapdev 25
semmap ((NPROC*2)+2)
semmni (NPROC*2)
semmns ((NPROC*2)*2)
semmnu (NPROC-4)
semume 250
semvmx 32768
shmmax 0X40000000
shmmni 512
shmseg 250
st_ats_enabled 1
vps_ceiling 64

[Armin Kunaschik]

Your system seems pretty much up-to-date.
I think your chances are good.

Armin

[Jerry_109]

I just had my power installed for the new rp4440. I'm booting off the ignite tape
( made with make_tape_recovery -IAv )

I will be sure to select :
the advanced menu choose "Clone to Different Hardware", so that it will create a new kernel with required drivers to boot after ignite restore

[Alzhy]

It should work.

I have my golden image created on a SuperDome nPar (PA8800 based even). I use the same Golden Image on machines on older N4000's.

I even managed to install that Golden Image on a D220 - albeit 32bit!



root@goofy # uname -a
HP-UX goofy B.11.11 U 9000/803 2016007482 unlimited-user license
root@goofy # model
9000/803/D220

[Jerry_109]

This looks like a problem ?

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x ./monitor_bpr, 24576 bytes, 48 tape blocks
* Download_mini-system: Complete
* Loading_software: Begin
* Installing boot area on disk.
* Enabling swap areas.
* Backing up LVM configuration for "vg00".
* Processing the archive source (Recovery Archive).
* Thu Oct 06 13:57:08 EDT 2005: Starting archive load of the source
(Recovery Archive).
* Positioning the tape (/dev/rmt/0mn).
* Archive extraction from tape is beginning. Please wait.
pax_iux: /dev/rmt/0m : This doesn't look like a tar archive
pax_iux: /dev/rmt/0m : Skipping to next file...
ERROR: Cannot load OS archive (Recovery Archive)

The configuration process has incurred an error, would you like
to push a shell for debugging purposes? (y/[n]):

[Alzhy]

Your 7410 probably has DDS-3 whilst yor rp440 has DDS-4 (or DAT72). Normally that should not pose any problem.

DO you have any other Ignite Tape Media that you can try? Or simply try repeating it.

Also, how a bout taking a make_net_recovery archive