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Will 11iv2 fit on a 9gb drive?

 
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Tim Medford
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Will 11iv2 fit on a 9gb drive?

Hi All.

I have a sandbox L1000 server that I'd like to put 11iv2 on. It has dual 9gb boot drives and an AutoRAID array attached.

From the docs it looks like it will not fit. I'm thinking maybe I can put /var over on the autoRAID as a work-around since it's a non-critical machine.

Has anyone had success installing on 9gb? If so could you please attach your disk layout for the drive including the LVM sizing?

Thanks,
Tim
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Pete Randall
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Re: Will 11iv2 fit on a 9gb drive?

Tim,

I read it the same way you do: minimum of 11.6 GB for the Foundation OE, though it does say "(37% used)". It would seem to me that you could adjust LV sizes downward slightly and make it fit if it only ends up 37% used.


Pete

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Zeev Schultz
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Re: Will 11iv2 fit on a 9gb drive?

basically its not a good idea to split system between several disks.usually because of maintaince and backups.

As to 11i v2, see here under "Hardware requirements":

http://h18000.www1.hp.com/products/quickspecs/12079_div/12079_div.HTML

So computers don't think yet. At least not chess computers. - Seymour Cray
Pete Randall
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Re: Will 11iv2 fit on a 9gb drive?

OH! And the totals don't include swap either!


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Zeev Schultz
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Re: Will 11iv2 fit on a 9gb drive?

BTW,from the link I've posted one can see that only 2% of supposed 4.5Gb /var are used by OS initially. I assume it doesn't include logs growing and so on. Anyway,it would leave not enough space,considering patches and software installations,swap,etc.
So computers don't think yet. At least not chess computers. - Seymour Cray
Hanwant Verma_1
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Re: Will 11iv2 fit on a 9gb drive?

Read this article will help you i guess.

http://docs.hp.com/en/5187-2239/ch03s04.html

Hanwant
Bill Hassell
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Re: Will 11iv2 fit on a 9gb drive?

You'll have no problems in fitting HP-UX (any rev) on a 4Gb disk. This assumes that you override the large-server layout that the newer versions of HP-UX have setup in the install disk. As mentioned, /var is massive in size which is a good thing when you have 500 users and 250 printers and email and an Ignite network server, etc, etc.

Oh, this is a sandbox server so /var can be about 1/10 that size (500 megs), same with /opt and /usr and /home can be 50 megs, etc. It depends on whether you want just vanilla HP-UX or a lot of optional software. You probably won't need much more than a few huindred megs of swap.

Of course, all this changes if your sandbox needs will include Oracle and SAP...


Bill Hassell, sysadmin
Tim Medford
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Re: Will 11iv2 fit on a 9gb drive?

Thanks everyone, especially Bill. I'll experiment with it and post the results and disk layout back on the forum.

Tim
doug hosking
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Re: Will 11iv2 fit on a 9gb drive?

I would be really careful about heading down this path. One thing you need to keep in mind is that during patch installs, OS updates, etc. there can be a LARGE temporary spike in disk space requirements. This can easily be on the order of a few hundred MB on 11.x.

This 'extra' space is needed because when updating shared libraries and other files that are in use, the system renames the old one rather than deletes it, then deletes the renamed file after the next OS reboot.
During that window, you need space for both copies of all of those files.

Although the SD tools will in theory do the appropriate disk space analysis and warn you if you're about to try something impossible, and those checks usually work well, they are only estimates. I have seen cases on smaller disks where the SD disk space analysis passed but the system ran out of disk space in the middle of the update, leaving the system in close to an unbootable condition.

You would likely have much better luck if you striped the two 9GB drives to form one 18GB drive. That would give you enough space for reasonable partitions, some swap space, some crash dump space, a little breathing room for installing later patches, etc.

If you do try this on one 9GB disk, you would probably want to minimize the number of logical volumes, so that free space isn't locked up on an lvol where it can't help with the space needs of another lvol.

Another consideration is how much software you plan to load onto this system beyond the original OS media.

Of course another consideration is disk reliability. You don't state the age of the disks, but it seems a reasonable assumption that any 9GB disk is quite old, and may be nearing the end of its expected life. Depending on how painful a disk failure would be to you, it may be wise to think about replacing that disk before doing the OS install.

Bill Hassell
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Re: Will 11iv2 fit on a 9gb drive?

Doug is correct. A 9Gb disk is fine for a sandbox system where patches bundles are not a concern. If you plan on installing the QPK and HWE patch bundles, 2Gb of free /var space is recommended. Note that even the very latest Core Install CD needs dozens of patches to be current. Small groups can be installed so you trade disk space for a lot of time.


Bill Hassell, sysadmin
Bill Hassell
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Re: Will 11iv2 fit on a 9gb drive?

Doug is correct. A 9Gb disk is fine for a sandbox system where patches bundles are not a concern. If you plan on installing the QPK and HWE patch bundles, 2Gb of free /var space is recommended. Note that even the very latest Core Install CD needs dozens of patches to be current. Small groups of patches can be installed rather than a big bundle so you trade disk space for a lot of time.


Bill Hassell, sysadmin