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08-09-2013 04:28 AM - last edited on 08-11-2013 07:27 PM by Liuqing
08-09-2013 04:28 AM - last edited on 08-11-2013 07:27 PM by Liuqing
Hi, We have a Inserv F400 with 4 failed NL Disks which need replacing with new ones. Does anyone have the step-by-step instructions on how this is done? From my understanding this is not as straightforward like an EVA where disks are simply removed and added.
Could you help!
P.S. This thread has been moved from Storage > Training & Education to Storage Area Networks (SAN) (Enterprise).
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08-09-2013 06:55 AM
08-09-2013 06:55 AM
Re: Replacing disks on 3PAR System (servicemag)
>We have a Inserv F400 with 4 failed NL Disks which need replacing with new ones.
What version of the HP 3PAR OS do you have?
>Does anyone have the step-by-step instructions on how this is done?
Have you looked at the CLI Admin manual?
The command is "servicemag start" on each magazine. After replacing, you do "servicemag resume".
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08-09-2013 07:09 AM
08-09-2013 07:09 AM
SolutionHi,
OS Version is 3.1.2. I though you would have to run 'admithw' to submit new hardware?
Do you know the start to end proceadure i.e.
remove broken disks (run abc)
add new disks ( this xyz)
Do healthcheck (...) ?
This would be much appriciated!
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08-09-2013 08:25 AM - last edited on 03-24-2017 01:00 AM by VidyaVI
08-09-2013 08:25 AM - last edited on 03-24-2017 01:00 AM by VidyaVI
Re: Replacing disks on 3PAR System (servicemag)
>I though you would have to run 'admithw' to submit new hardware?
That's for new, not for replacements.
>Do you know the start to end procedure
I don't remember if your F class has multiple disks per mag? The output of showpd below would verify.
(I found pictures, it only has one disk per mag.)
If multiple, then you replace them all at the same time with the one servicemag.
If not, you can do multiple servicemag commands at the same time but would be safer to do one by one.
Multiple would put more of an I/O load on the system and lead to possible confusion during replacement.
1) First find your failed disks:
a) showpd -s -failed -degraded
b) showpd -i -failed -degraded
Please post the output of these two commands.
2) Taking the cage and mag info from the above commands:
servicemag start cage# mag#
3) Checking status:
servicemag status -d cage# mag#
4) Once this is done, you can replace the disk(s) in the magazine. Use this to blink the LEDs:
locatecage -t 255 <cage_name> <mag>
(Note: This is a cage name, not number. I.e. cage0.
Warning: Make sure you replace the right magazine and disk!
Make sure you familiarize yourself with the magazine and disk numbering and ordering direction.
5) Then do do the resume:
servicemag resume cage# mag#
6) You can check the status as in 3).
When done, you could do 1) to make sure no more failed disks.
And you could do:
checkhealth pd
You might want to check out the HPGT for F class:
I see a locating a cage here:
Unfortunately the example forgot the time value after the -t. :-(
Layout and drive order:
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08-12-2013 06:21 AM
08-12-2013 06:21 AM
Re: Replacing disks on 3PAR System (servicemag)
Hi thank you that looks great... hereis the output from the commands.
showpd -s -failed -degraded
Id CagePos Type -State- ------------------Detailed_State------------------
13 1:1:0 NL failed vacated,invalid_media,media_failed
22 1:13:0 NL failed vacated,invalid_media,smart_threshold_exceeded
28 2:5:0 NL failed vacated,invalid_media,smart_threshold_exceeded
40 3:5:0 NL failed vacated,invalid_media,multiple_chunklets_media_bad
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
4 total
showpd -i -failed -degraded
Id CagePos State ----Node_WWN---- --MFR-- ---Model---- -Serial- -FW_Rev-- Protocol MediaType
13 1:1:0 failed 2210000A330061F8 SEAGATE ST31000340NS 9QJ6S5BY XR38,1610 SATA Magnetic
22 1:13:0 failed 2210000A33006790 SEAGATE ST31000340NS 9QJ6JH63 XR38,1610 SATA Magnetic
28 2:5:0 failed 2210000A330066F4 SEAGATE ST31000340NS 9QJ6MKC4 XR38,1610 SATA Magnetic
40 3:5:0 failed 2210000A330066AB SEAGATE ST31000340NS 9QJ6S683 XR38,1610 SATA Magnetic
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
4 total
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08-12-2013 09:27 AM
08-12-2013 09:27 AM
Re: Replacing disks on 3PAR System (servicemag)
Probably the most simple method would be now to point your browser to the SP and use guided maintenance to replace the disks one by one (wait for the re-balance to finish before replacing the next disk - you may check with servicemag status command).
Hope this helps!
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08-13-2013 12:34 AM
08-13-2013 12:34 AM
Re: Replacing disks on 3PAR System (servicemag)
guided maintenance is not an option my friend as we dont seem to have the password :(
plus I always thgouht GM was only to swap disks on the SP rather than the disk in the shelvs ?
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08-13-2013 01:08 AM
08-13-2013 01:08 AM
Re: Replacing disks on 3PAR System (servicemag)
>13 1:1:0 NL failed vacated,invalid_media,media_failed
>22 1:13:0 NL failed vacated,invalid_media,smart_threshold_exceeded
>28 2:5:0 NL failed vacated,invalid_media,smart_threshold_exceeded
>40 3:5:0 NL failed vacated,invalid_media,multiple_chunklets_media_bad
Since these are already vacated, hopefully the first part of servicemag will go fast.
The cage and mag for each is:
servicemag start 1 1
servicemag start 1 13
servicemag start 2 5
servicemag start 3 5
For locatecage:
locatecage -t 255 cage1 1
locatecage -t 255 cage1 13
locatecage -t 255 cage2 5
locatecage -t 255 cage3 5
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08-13-2013 04:05 AM
08-13-2013 04:05 AM
Re: Replacing disks on 3PAR System (servicemag)
Just to be extra sure will this therefore be the steps for asingle disk?
1- servicemag start 1 1
2- locatecage -t 255 cage1 1
3- Remove faulty Disk
4- Add new Disk
5- servicemag resume 1 1
6- checkhealth pd
Then move onto disk 2?
Thanks again!
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08-13-2013 04:41 AM
08-13-2013 04:41 AM
Re: Replacing disks on 3PAR System (servicemag)
Sounds good. Before doing (3), wait until "servicemag status" shows "succeeded".
Hope this helps!
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08-14-2013 03:09 AM
08-14-2013 03:09 AM
Re: Replacing disks on 3PAR System (servicemag)
>wait until "servicemag status" shows "succeeded".
Right. You can also add -d for details: servicemag status -d
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08-19-2013 03:33 AM
08-19-2013 03:33 AM
Re: Replacing disks on 3PAR System (servicemag)
Hi, after placing the new disk in and running the resume command, the SP whent into checking the new disk and the wan basically said disk was not normal...
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
P-001 cli% servicemag status -d 3 5
The magazine was successfully brought offline by a servicemag start command.
The command completed Mon Aug 19 09:06:32 2013.
The output of the servicemag start was:
servicemag start 3 5
... servicing disks in mag: 3 5
... normal disks:
... not normal disks: WWN [2210000A330066AB] Id [40] diskpos [0]
... relocating chunklets to spare space...
... spinning down disk WWN [2210000A330066AB] Id [40]
... bypassing mag 3 5
... bypassed mag 3 5
servicemag start 3 5 -- Succeeded
3P-001 cli% showpd -c 3 5
-------- Normal Chunklets -------- ---- Spare Chunklets ----
- Used -- -------- Unused -------- - Used - ---- Unused ----
Id CagePos Type State Total OK Fail Free Uninit Unavail Fail OK Fail Free Uninit Fail
3 0:4:0 FC normal 1115 76 0 1004 0 0 0 0 0 35 0 0
5 4:2:0 NL normal 3724 1368 0 2247 0 0 0 109 0 0 0 0
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
2 total 4839 1444 0 3251 0 0 0 109 0 35 0 0
3P-001 cli% servicemag status -d 3 5
The magazine was successfully brought offline by a servicemag start command.
The command completed Mon Aug 19 09:06:32 2013.
The output of the servicemag start was:
servicemag start 3 5
... servicing disks in mag: 3 5
... normal disks:
... not normal disks: WWN [2210000A330066AB] Id [40] diskpos [0]
... relocating chunklets to spare space...
... spinning down disk WWN [2210000A330066AB] Id [40]
... bypassing mag 3 5
... bypassed mag 3 5
servicemag start 3 5 -- Succeeded
3P-001 cli% servicemag status -d 3 5
The magazine was successfully brought offline by a servicemag start command.
The command completed Mon Aug 19 09:06:32 2013.
The output of the servicemag start was:
servicemag start 3 5
... servicing disks in mag: 3 5
... normal disks:
... not normal disks: WWN [2210000A330066AB] Id [40] diskpos [0]
... relocating chunklets to spare space...
... spinning down disk WWN [2210000A330066AB] Id [40]
... bypassing mag 3 5
... bypassed mag 3 5
servicemag start 3 5 -- Succeeded
3P-001 cli% servicemag status -d 3 5
The magazine was successfully brought offline by a servicemag start command.
The command completed Mon Aug 19 09:06:32 2013.
The output of the servicemag start was:
servicemag start 3 5
... servicing disks in mag: 3 5
... normal disks:
... not normal disks: WWN [2210000A330066AB] Id [40] diskpos [0]
... relocating chunklets to spare space...
... spinning down disk WWN [2210000A330066AB] Id [40]
... bypassing mag 3 5
... bypassed mag 3 5
servicemag start 3 5 -- Succeeded
3P-001 cli% servicemag resume 3 5
Are you sure you want to run servicemag?
select q=quit y=yes n=no: y
servicemag resume 3 5
... mag 3 5 already onlooped
... firmware is current on pd WWN [2210000A330066AB] Id [40]
... checking for valid disks...
... checking for valid disks...
... disks not normal yet..trying admit/onloop again
... onlooping mag 3 5
... checking for valid disks...
... checking for valid disks...
... disks not normal yet..trying admit/onloop again
... onlooping mag 3 5
... checking for valid disks...
... checking for valid disks...
... disks not normal yet..trying admit/onloop again
... onlooping mag 3 5
... checking for valid disks...
Failed --
disk WWN [2210000A330066AB] Id [40] is not normal. Please use showpd -s to see details of disk state
servicemag resume 3 5 -- Failed
Command failed
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
are there additional commands to run to get the firmware upto date or what else is missing from my commands ??
Thanks!
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08-19-2013 03:50 AM - edited 08-19-2013 04:09 AM
08-19-2013 03:50 AM - edited 08-19-2013 04:09 AM
Re: Replacing disks on 3PAR System (servicemag)
showpd -c 3 5
is showing disks 3 and 5, but you want to see disk 40!
BUT ...
... spinning down disk WWN [2210000A330066AB] Id [40] --- the old disk
disk WWN [2210000A330066AB] Id [40] is not normal
This is still the same disk - no new disk listed.
Please do
% showpd -c -p -cg 3
% showpd -failed -degraded
% showpd -s 40
Did you replace the wrong disk?
Hope this helps!
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08-19-2013 03:59 AM
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Re: Replacing disks on 3PAR System (servicemag)
40 is the disk ID and 3 5 is the posision. so this is the right command
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08-19-2013 04:02 AM
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Re: Replacing disks on 3PAR System (servicemag)
Hope this helps!
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08-19-2013 04:10 AM
08-19-2013 04:10 AM
Re: Replacing disks on 3PAR System (servicemag)
This is the thing! Once I replace the disk the ID remains the same, do you know if I need to replace the caddy too? At the moment we are removing the old disk with alankey then placing the new disk into the original caddy. Is this the right approach?
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08-19-2013 04:13 AM
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Re: Replacing disks on 3PAR System (servicemag)
% showpd -c -p -cg 3
% showpd -failed -degraded
% showpd -s 40
Hope this helps!
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08-19-2013 04:38 AM
08-19-2013 04:38 AM
Re: Replacing disks on 3PAR System (servicemag)
Here you go Mr....
3P-001 cli% showpd -c -p -cg 3
-------- Normal Chunklets --------- ---- Spare Chunklets ----
- Used -- -------- Unused --------- - Used - ---- Unused ----
Id CagePos Type State Total OK Fail Free Uninit Unavail Fail OK Fail Free Uninit Fail
36 3:0:0 FC normal 1115 85 0 995 0 0 0 0 0 35 0 0
37 3:1:0 NL normal 3724 1352 0 2263 0 0 0 0 0 109 0 0
38 3:3:0 FC normal 1115 73 0 1007 0 0 0 0 0 35 0 0
40 3:5:0 NL failed 3724 0 0 0 0 3610 6 0 0 0 0 108
41 3:7:0 FC normal 1115 81 0 999 0 0 0 0 0 35 0 0
42 3:8:0 FC normal 1115 86 0 994 0 0 0 0 0 35 0 0
44 3:11:0 FC normal 1115 76 0 1004 0 0 0 0 0 35 0 0
45 3:12:0 FC normal 1115 75 0 1005 0 0 0 0 0 34 0 1
46 3:13:0 NL normal 3724 1626 0 1989 0 0 1 0 0 108 0 0
47 3:15:0 FC normal 1115 83 0 997 0 0 0 0 0 35 0 0
60 3:2:0 FC normal 1115 68 0 1012 0 0 0 0 0 35 0 0
61 3:6:0 FC normal 1115 64 0 1016 0 0 0 0 0 35 0 0
62 3:10:0 FC normal 1115 69 0 1011 0 0 0 0 0 35 0 0
63 3:14:0 FC normal 1115 64 0 1016 0 0 0 0 0 35 0 0
80 3:9:0 NL normal 3724 1355 0 2260 0 0 0 0 0 109 0 0
112 3:4:0 FC normal 1115 76 0 1005 0 0 0 0 0 34 0 0
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
16 total 28276 5233 0 18573 0 3610 7 0 0 744 0 109
3P-001 cli% showpd -failed -degraded
--Size(MB)-- ----Ports----
Id CagePos Type RPM State Total Free A B Cap(GB)
13 1:1:0 NL 7 failed 953344 0 2:0:2 3:0:2* 1000
22 1:13:0 NL 7 failed 953344 0 2:0:2* 3:0:2 1000
28 2:5:0 NL 7 failed 953344 0 2:2:1* 3:2:1 1000
40 3:5:0 NL 7 failed 953344 0 2:2:2* 3:2:2 1000
-------------------------------------------------------------
4 total 3813376 0
3P-001 cli% showpd -s 40
Id CagePos Type -State- ----------------------------------Detailed_State-----------------------------------
40 3:5:0 NL failed vacated,invalid_media,multiple_chunklets_media_bad,invalid,inquiry_failed,servicing
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
1 total
3P-001 cli%
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08-19-2013 04:45 AM - edited 08-19-2013 04:45 AM
08-19-2013 04:45 AM - edited 08-19-2013 04:45 AM
Re: Replacing disks on 3PAR System (servicemag)
I think you have inserted the same disk again. You can confirm by issuing the following command:
showpd -i -p -cg 3 -mg 5
If the WWN is 2210000A330066AB, then its the same old disk that you were trying to replace.
The new disk will have a new WWN and a new ID, but will be at the same position.
When you remove the disk with WWN 2210000A330066AB, it will go missing and the ID will be displayed untill servicemag resume completes.
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08-19-2013 04:56 AM
08-19-2013 04:56 AM
Re: Replacing disks on 3PAR System (servicemag)
Hi, appriciate your help so far...hopefully we can crack this issue! Here is the output...
CLRB-STF400-001 cli% showpd -i -p -cg 5 -mg 5
Id CagePos State ----Node_WWN---- --MFR-- -----Model----- ----Serial---- -FW_Rev-- Protocol MediaType
85 5:5:0 normal 2210000A33009BE7 Hitachi HUA722010ZLA330 JK11A8B9J4U83F A3GF,1610 SATA Magnetic
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I can comfirm that the new disk is infact new and was un wrapped this morning.
Thanks!
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08-19-2013 04:58 AM
08-19-2013 04:58 AM
Re: Replacing disks on 3PAR System (servicemag)
Please provide outtpu of:
showpd -i -p -cg 3 -mg 5
and not
showpd -i -p -cg 5 -mg 3
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08-19-2013 05:02 AM - edited 08-19-2013 05:15 AM
08-19-2013 05:02 AM - edited 08-19-2013 05:15 AM
Re: Replacing disks on 3PAR System (servicemag)
Look at this:
cli% servicemag resume 3 5
Are you sure you want to run servicemag?
select q=quit y=yes n=no: y
servicemag resume 3 5
... mag 3 5 already onlooped
... firmware is current on pd WWN [2210000A330066AB] Id [40]
... checking for valid disks...
... checking for valid disks...
Usually you see the new disk here too, but not in this case.
Are you sure you replaced the correct disk position with a correct supported replacement drive?
If you do a
% locatecage cage3
all LEDs of cage 3 will blink orange for 1 minute.
Is this the cage where you replaced the disk?
Maybe the output of
% showpd
% showalert
% checkhealth -svc
could help.
Hope this helps!
Regards
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08-19-2013 05:06 AM
08-19-2013 05:06 AM
Re: Replacing disks on 3PAR System (servicemag)
sorry here you go
3p-001% showpd -i -p -cg 3 -mg 5
Id CagePos State ----Node_WWN---- -MFR- ---Model---- -Serial- -FW_Rev- Protocol MediaType
40 3:5:0 failed 2210000A330066AB ATA ST31000340NS 9QJ6S683 ,1610 SATA Magnetic
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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08-19-2013 05:07 AM
08-19-2013 05:07 AM
Re: Replacing disks on 3PAR System (servicemag)
I can see that the wwn is the same but I have a very strong feeling this is the caddy wwn and not the disk. As this was visible while I was loadin it.
Do I need to replace caddy too?
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08-19-2013 05:18 AM - edited 08-19-2013 05:19 AM
08-19-2013 05:18 AM - edited 08-19-2013 05:19 AM
Re: Replacing disks on 3PAR System (servicemag)
The caddy has no WWN, the label on it refers to the disk.
Please check the disk location - see my previous post.
Hope this helps!
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